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Jun 15 2016 09:55pm
Quote (Hacintosh @ Jun 15 2016 10:54pm)
Mental health problems in your society? Fuck fixing that problem just blame guns and ban them. k.


not saying to fix that lol jus saying if there was record of him not mentally healthy he cudnt of bought a gun...
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Quote (Hubris @ Jun 15 2016 10:55pm)
Spray implies automatic, but we are talking about single-fire weapons here.


are we? believe before we were talking about machine guns too...

w/e seems jsp is jus full of gun experts here and most prolly dont even own one...


This post was edited by Maddog402 on Jun 15 2016 09:57pm
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Quote (Maddog402 @ Jun 16 2016 03:55am)
not saying to fix that lol jus saying if there was record of him not mentally healthy he cudnt of bought a gun...


If not a gun he could have googled how to make a bomb. or googled something else. If you want to kill a lot of people there are plenty of ways and the information is right at their fingertips. We going to keep banning until we run out of things to ban?
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Jun 15 2016 09:59pm
Quote (Hacintosh @ Jun 15 2016 10:58pm)
If not a gun he could have googled how to make a bomb. or googled something else. If you want to kill a lot of people there are plenty of ways and the information is right at their fingertips. We going to keep banning until we run out of things to ban?


ya but were talking about guns and buying them not making bombs
and he didnt use a bomb but a gun
and i never said to ban them asked if u think they shud be i dont think they shud be

were all just so off topic here n shit lol
seems were all angry and shit lol

well least was good topic lol

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Jun 15 2016 10:01pm
Quote (Maddog402 @ Jun 16 2016 03:59am)
ya but were talking about guns and buying them not making bombs
and he didnt use a bomb but a gun
and i never said to ban them asked if u think they shud be i dont think they shud be

were all just so off topic here n shit lol
seems were all angry and shit lol

well least was good topic lol


My point is that if someone gets to a mental place where they want to kill a lot of people then they will do so. Pass all the laws you want, it will not stop them.
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Jun 15 2016 10:02pm
Quote (cialda @ Jun 15 2016 10:48pm)
I never said i think it will work nor have i said i think it would fail. I don't understand the logic behind vincenzo's post that gun control isnt working because attacks happened. I don't think realistically people expect gun attacks to drop to zero if tougher gun control laws were enacted. I just don't see the harm in some restrictions that really have a minimal effect on the consumer



They wouldn't drop at all. Where does "tougher" gun control stop though ? Are we just talking ARs ? Significantly more people are shot &/or killed by handguns than rifles. Are we going to enable tougher control on those as well ? What about shotguns ? The problem is the government wouldn't stop at extended background checks. They'd want ridiculous waiting periods & registration. Perhaps confiscation is that doesn't work ? Not to get all tin foil hat on you, but it's a slippery slope. Things like more stringent back ground checks, absolutely. However what worries me is this Muslim guy in Orlando was on the damn FBI watch list & they looked into it twice & he still got guns bruh. It's ridiculous
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Jun 15 2016 10:03pm
Quote (Hacintosh @ Jun 15 2016 11:01pm)
My point is that if someone gets to a mental place where they want to kill a lot of people then they will do so. Pass all the laws you want, it will not stop them.


k... yes but they will have to do it that way n not a gun
will jus make it harder for them

and say they make a bomb going to throw red flags wen they go buy all the suspicious stuff to make a bomb
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Jun 15 2016 10:04pm
abolish the police and military, teach weapons training and community policing through cyclical service eg everyone does 6 months of militia service
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Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jun 15 2016 11:02pm)
They wouldn't drop at all. Where does "tougher" gun control stop though ? Are we just talking ARs ? Significantly more people are shot &/or killed by handguns than rifles. Are we going to enable tougher control on those as well ? What about shotguns ? The problem is the government wouldn't stop at extended background checks. They'd want ridiculous waiting periods & registration. Perhaps confiscation is that doesn't work ? Not to get all tin foil hat on you, but it's a slippery slope. Things like more stringent back ground checks, absolutely. However what worries me is this Muslim guy in Orlando was on the damn FBI watch list & they looked into it twice & he still got guns bruh. It's ridiculous


yes y we need the extensive checks. if u need ur gun that day sum off u can w8 a lil for it to come :)
all guns

reason he got one is cause are gun control laws for checks is fucked
y it needs to get fixed
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Jun 15 2016 10:05pm
Quote (Maddog402 @ 16 Jun 2016 14:03)
k... yes but they will have to do it that way n not a gun
will jus make it harder for them

and say they make a bomb going to throw red flags wen they go buy all the suspicious stuff to make a bomb


A lot of basic things can be used to make bombs, are we going to set off red flags when people buy normal quantities of these things?

Because as mentioned, someone with the mindset of wanting to kill multiple people will find a way, whether that is building up a supply of explosives over months/years or whatever else.
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