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Oct 15 2014 10:20pm
Quote (S3rial_Joe @ 16 Oct 2014 00:19)
i call racist. says it wont allow my country to view that heap of sh1t of a video. damn racism

:bonk:


I get that for a lot of the music i like to listen to =(
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Oct 15 2014 10:21pm
Quote (ChrisKz @ 16 Oct 2014 04:18)
We don't have solid evidence for macro-evolution, which is why there is still a religious side for the argument. People on both sides a lot smarter than us have been debating this for a long time my friend.


No they haven't. Very few 'intelligent' people will argue evolutionary theory is false. Just look at the most publicised debate of that kind in recent years - the Ken Ham vs Bill Nye debate. Ken Ham was crushed and he's a fucking moron. I could come up with a better argument than Ken Ham and I don't even believe what he's arguing. Also, we have well known and documented transitional forms between fish, snakes, lizards, and frogs, between whales, dolphins, and other land mammals, between reptiles and other proto-mammals, between birds and dinosaurs, etc. The evidence is astounding. There is no serious debate in science whether or not common descent happened. You can quote a handful of scientists that say the earth is 6,000 years old and that radiometric dating proves the bible, and other nonsense, but within the scientific community as a whole, there is no controversy. It's like the flat earth and the solid state theory. People still believe it and often come up with clever arguments, but they are full of misunderstandings and fallacies. Nobody takes them seriously anymore, and this includes creationists. We are apes, primates, this was determined decades ago, feel free to reject it, but the evidence is staring you right in the face every time you look in the mirror.

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Oct 15 2014 10:22pm
Quote (S3rial_Joe @ Oct 15 2014 11:19pm)
i call racist. says it wont allow my country to view that heap of sh1t of a video. damn racism

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Probably because you have to pay for it.

The show is called Cosmos.

It is episode #2 called "Some of the Things Molecules Do"

The show stars Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson....who is black fyi :angry:
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Quote (nineinchnailz @ Oct 15 2014 11:22pm)
Probably because you have to pay for it.

The show is called Cosmos.

It is episode #2 called "Some of the Things Molecules Do"

The show stars Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson....who is black fyi  :angry:


http://www.cosmosontv.com/
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Oct 15 2014 10:25pm
Quote (Scaly @ 16 Oct 2014 00:21)
No they haven't. Also, we have well known and documented transitional forms between fish, snakes, lizards, and frogs, between whales, dolphins, and other land mammals, between reptiles and other proto-mammals, between birds and dinosaurs, etc. The evidence is astounding. There is no serious debate in science whether or not common descent happened. You can quote a handful of scientists that say the earth is 6,000 years old and that radiometric dating proves the bible, and other nonsense, but within the scientific community as a whole, there is no controversy. It's like the flat earth and the solid state theory. People still believe it and often come up with clever arguments, but they are full of misunderstandings and fallacies. Nobody takes them seriously anymore, and this includes creationists. We are apes, primates, this was determined decades ago, feel free to reject it, but the evidence is staring you right in the face every time you look in the mirror.


You say this, but this is obviously going to be the case for the scientific community that does not commingle with religion lol. We have documented things yes. The embryonic drawings done previous were shown as fake, and that ther eis only a short period during incubation that embryos look slightly similar to each other.

A lot of the transitional animals, as you call them, are completely their own species and we have no fossils that I have seen during my research, nor presented to me in class, that were only slightly different from the species they were claimed to be transitioned from. There are too many differences. Just like people think we came from chimps. We did not, we came from Neanderthals and other sorts of sapiens.



edit: w.e, I'm not here to actually argue, I just wanted to present my viewpoint. We aren't even credentialed enough to argue this and have any valid point. Lets just agree to disagree.

This post was edited by ChrisKz on Oct 15 2014 10:27pm
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I believe in evolution just about as much as I believe that e=mc2
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Quote (ChrisKz @ 16 Oct 2014 04:25)
You say this, but this is obviously going to be the case for the scientific community that does not commingle with religion lol. We have documented things yes. The embryonic drawings done previous were shown as fake, and that ther eis only a short period during incubation that embryos look slightly similar to each other.

A lot of the transitional animals, as you call them, are completely their own species and we have no fossils that I have seen during my research, nor presented to me in class, that were only slightly different from the species they were claimed to be transitioned from. There are too many differences. Just like people think we came from chimps. We did not, we came from Neanderthals and other sorts of sapiens.


Oh. My. Fucking. God.

You either went to a creationist 'school' or you're lying through your fucking teeth about taking any classes involving evolution.

We did not come from 'neanderthals' and nobody who knows evolutionary theory would claim that that is what it says. You have obviously done little to no research on the subject you are trying to argue and so I'm terminating this argument. If you don't want to learn then I can't teach you.

Look it up. Everything you have just said is total bullshit or entirely irrelevant.

This post was edited by Scaly on Oct 15 2014 10:29pm
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Quote (Diutinus @ Oct 15 2014 07:25pm)
Considering this forum has a strong Christian backing, I find it funny that you're surprised


oO it does :o
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Oct 15 2014 10:37pm
Quote (Scaly @ 16 Oct 2014 00:28)
Oh. My. Fucking. God.

You either went to a creationist 'school' or you're lying through your fucking teeth about taking any classes involving evolution.

We did not come from 'neanderthals' and nobody who knows evolutionary theory would claim that that is what it says. You have obviously done little to no research on the subject you are trying to argue and so I'm terminating this argument. If you don't want to learn then I can't teach you.

Look it up. Everything you have just said is total bullshit or entirely irrelevant.


Haha maybe u need to study xD. Neanderthals are accepted as the same species as us because they could create fertile offspring with homo sapiens, the modern human is considered the homo sapien sapien if u did not know.
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Oct 15 2014 10:38pm
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey/episodes/the-rivers-of-life/

the show in question is going to be on natgeo tv nov 5 @3am ET. set your dvr or pay 2 bucks to watch it on youtube or somewhere.
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