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Quote (ChrisKz @ 1 Jul 2016 14:52)
No I'm not. I didn't even bring up a good argument like..... If we stopped farming animals the way we do the poor population of even the 1st world countries would never get their hands on meat and essential amino acids and proteins in their diets. Even 2nd and 3rd world countries would suffer from it, they'd probably lose a good 1-2/3 of their populations in a generation or two.


there are countries that couldn't sustain their population without animal farming, those cases are not immoral because the suffering isn't arbitrary. by even bringing that up you're showing you don't understand the moral principle i'm talking about. as far as wealthy countries go, it's usually cheaper to sustain off things other than meat but if that's not the case then phasing out meat farming would increase production in other areas making the alternatives cheaper
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Quote (Devil_kin @ 1 Jul 2016 17:01)
there are countries that couldn't sustain their population without animal farming, those cases are not immoral because the suffering isn't arbitrary. by even bringing that up you're showing you don't understand the moral principle i'm talking about. as far as wealthy countries go, it's usually cheaper to sustain off things other than meat but if that's not the case then phasing out meat farming would increase production in other areas making the alternatives cheaper


This just sounds like a bunch of hypocritical bullshit lmao. You can't use double standards to justify an argument like this. To not eat meat is only a subject of a one's personal morals. You can't use your own morals to condemn others when it comes to matter such as this otherwise you are being hypocritical for the reasons I've previously stated.

Also if you understood how expensive protein would become without this farming you'd realize how dumb the idea is. Nuts would be in huge demand and they are already expensive. Low class people can't really afford to spend that kind of money already on such a substance and it isn't even in high demand yet.

Imagine if it was. I don't people in 1st world countries with the income I live would be able to afford it. We'd be nutrient starved.

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Jul 1 2016 03:11pm
we are animals
animals eat other animals
circle of life
didn't you ever watch the lion king?
nub

glhf

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Quote (ChrisKz @ 1 Jul 2016 15:07)
This just sounds like a bunch of hypocritical bullshit lmao. You can't use double standards to justify an argument like this. To not eat meat is only a subject of a one's personal morals. You can't use your own morals to condemn others when it comes to matter such as this otherwise you are being hypocritical for the reasons I've previously stated.

Also if you understood how expensive protein would become without this farming you'd realize how dumb the idea is. Nuts would be in huge demand and they are already expensive. Low class people can't really afford to spend that kind of money already on such a substance and it isn't even in high demand yet.

Imagine if it was.


what ??

explain where the hypocrisy and double standards are. it sounds like you still don't get it, but you claim i'm the one that's not receptive to other people's arguments :SS

you can google vegan diets yourself
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Quote (Devil_kin @ 1 Jul 2016 17:11)
what ??

explain where the hypocrisy and double standards are. it sounds like you still don't get it, but you claim i'm the one that's not receptive to other people's arguments :SS

you can google vegan diets yourself


Vegan diets are for the privileged. Even many of those people wouldn't be able to sustain that expensive diet if it because 3x or even more the cost because meat farming has been taken out of the factor.

Also plants are also non-sentient beings that we harvest for food, where is your care for them?
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Vegan diets are for the privileged. Even many of those people wouldn't be able to sustain that expensive diet if it because 3x or even more the cost because meat farming has been taken out of the factor.

Also plants are also non-sentient beings that we harvest for food, where is your care for them?


false

dumb argument

try again
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Jul 1 2016 03:15pm
meat tastes good
high protein fits my needs
don't care about the feelings of chicken I eat everyday
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Quote (Devil_kin @ 1 Jul 2016 17:13)
false

dumb argument

try again


dude your only argument is we have an obligation so stfu. retard
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Quote (ChrisKz @ 1 Jul 2016 15:16)
dude your only argument is we have an obligation so stfu. retard


an obligation based on the premise that causing arbitrary suffering is wrong, which you have not refuted whatsoever
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an obligation based on the premise that causing arbitrary suffering is wrong, which you have not refuted whatsoever


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