What's the alternative cigarettes?
Pg has been used in multiple applications in the food industry for s long time as a stabiliser, emulsifier etc. It had multiple fda approvals for many applications. The ld50 is something like 6g power kilo so that's not a danger. The kidney damage you are referring too was demonstrated at levels near the ld50 in animal models.

If a substance has been approved through the fda for anything to do with inhalation (one of the toughest areas to approve substances) you can be pretty sure it's safe. Also tobacco companies are funding so much crooked research in this area and even that is doing little to show any major health issues.

As for you it's to easy to squash, you know generally the term mixologist is a reference to the bar industry. Learn to use your terms appropriately.

speaking of learning, creators of e-liquid blends have also adopted the term mixologist. there are places that offer a safety and education course on how to do this, supply certification, and there are people in the vapor industry whos job title is "mixologist".




and this guy knows his shit alright.

This post was edited by Wretch on Mar 22 2014 01:50pm

I like that key word you used. Let me bold it for you. I am too easy? You practically defeat yourself. I should just go make some popcorn and watch you argue with yourself.

This coming from someone claiming chemistry knowledge somehow related to the effect of pg in the human body.

A chemist can tell you the properties of the chemical it takes a biologist however to demonstrate if the chemical is safe by how it acts on the body, how it is metabolised etc. Get your disciplines right at least.

just because they adopt a term doesn't change the general definition associated with it. therefore the point remains. As for senorz all he demonstrated was the ld50's that doesn't change the fact of the possible side effects of the chemical. It is only generally considered safe for food use but even the cdc considers it a toxin. Just because certain levels of something are allowed doesn't mean that is particularly healthy for you.

i got 2 45 gal drums of PG at work

Lmk if u wants to experiement

Now you have resorted to side effects? You realise that in clinical trials all possible side effects have to be listed and that humans are very variable in how they respond to different substances? Saying something has side effects us basically saying it is active within the body.

Saying something is toxic doesn't help either. Most of what we consume is toxic in very high dosages. Even too much water will kill you horribly. Just saying something is toxic without relating it to dosage is just a waste of time. 6g per kg is a huge dose.


If you really wanted to attack pg you are going about it the wrong way.

My two favorite people on GC slamming the shit of some rand #GoodThreadIsGood

Slam'd.



Let's recap what you are saying. "DON'T USE E-CIGS BECAUSE PG JUST MIGHT HAVE HARMFUL SIDE EFFECTS ON YOU!!!" What you should be saying is: "OMG CIGARETTES ARE MILLION TIMES WORSE FOR YOU!"



Well then. I guess this thread delivered.