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May 2 2016 07:43pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ May 2 2016 06:37pm)
It's not a contradiction. The link I posted specifically refers to the link you posted. Yes, there are induced earthquakes. No, they're not from fracking.



That's because it's not true. You should actually try reading things instead of looking for headlines that agree with what you already believe.


Previous USGS studies have shown a strong connection in many locations between the deep injection of fluids and increased earthquake rates
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its in black, and white ... yet you still deny it ? they admitting there is a strong connection ...Wow I give up on you
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i was in no way encouraging your stupidity Seems like it was personal attack.. as you could not deny the simple facts i posted.. you try to discredit the author for their stupidity ..Like tactical shrills do ..1 USGS Admits there is a connection to earthquakes caused by fracking ..you deny this...... 2 then you claim i am just stupid ... 3 then you claim you did not get personal?

Science works? How does science work? I thought science is just the study of things to predict a outcome..please explain how you make science work?


ok, youre mad i used the word "stupidity"...so? this is science, noone cares about your feelings, bring the data

1. no they don't, they barely even admit to a correlation
2. you are stupid (at science)
3. i claimed i didn't attack you personally, this is an anonymous forum

science works empirically, its not just "the study of things to predict an outcome", you start with a question "can fracking cause earthquakes?", then you look into how earthquakes are caused, then you look into how fracking works, then you design an experiment to test if water can effect tectonic shift, then you confirm the numbers ad absurdum, then you state your conclusion citing relevant data. at no point in a scientific investigation should you be googling satirical articles.


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Previous USGS studies have shown a strong connection in many locations between the deep injection of fluids and increased earthquake rates.

its in black, and white ... yet you still deny it ? they admitting there is a strong connection ...Wow I give up on you

even if that were true (and backed up by...anything scientific), it would still be a mere correlation, a loooong way from proof of causation.

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do i have do the math to prove Why water is running down hill .. to make it a scientific fact ? Or can i just assume water flows down ?
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do i have do the math to prove Why water is running down hill .. to make it a scientific fact ? Or can i just assume water flows down ?


"why" is a useless question in science, you do have to show that water does run downhill (others have done it for you already though), you can assume nothing

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do i have do the math to prove Why water is running down hill .. to make it a scientific fact ? Or can i just assume water flows down ?


Water doesn't flow down, is flows in

In towards the center of earth, we only pecieve it as down
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Quote (Whiskers @ May 2 2016 06:16pm)
want to inject the chemtrail smoke with me? B)


Oh yes
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There is enough of a connection for a logical conclusion that fracking can, and does cause earthquakes ... As far as i am concerned.. And I can look up to see a chemical reaction in the sky that goes beyond what a water vapor will create.. If only through science can you come to these conclusions I really feel sorry for you.. Because no one has the time or capability to apply such science to everything in nature, to see how things work.. Most of the time we just accept others confirmation of things, without actually doing the work for ourselves ..If they tell you what you see is not real you accept it?

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There is enough of a connection for logical conclusion that fracking can, and does cause earthquakes ... As far as i am concerned..

if "some random lady reading satire" and a vague correlation on a usgs website is enough for you, who am i to call you stupid, stupid.

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and I can look up to see a chemical reaction in the sky that goes beyond what a water vapor will create..

based on what? you just proved you don't know or even care about how science works, how am i supposed to believe anything you say in a scientific context?


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If only through science can you come to these conclusions I really feel sorry for you..

yep, thats pretty much how intelligent people come to any conclusion, based on the evidence (empirical evidence, not heresay)

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Because no one has the time or capability to apply such science to everything in nature, to see how things work..

noone has the time to watch 500 youtube videos either, which form of evidence would you prefer for discerning truth? what people say, or what the data shows?

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Most of the time we just accept others confirmation of things, without actually doing the work for ourselves

thats exactly the issue i'm trying to adress, stop taking peoples word and start doing the research, it wouldnt even take much data to convince me fracking can cause earthquakes, but what youve given thus far is literally nothing (minor correlation and a lady on a satire website)

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..If they tell you what you see is not real you accept it?

NO! thats the point, you shouldn't believe what anyone tells you about anything, you should check for yourself, run some tests, check the numbers, its insane to beleive things based on anecdotal testimony

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if "some random lady reading satire" and a vague correlation on a usgs website is enough for you, who am i to call you stupid, stupid.


based on what? you just proved you don't know or even care about how science works, how am i supposed to believe anything you say in a scientific context?



yep, thats pretty much how intelligent people come to any conclusion, based on the evidence (empirical evidence, not heresay)


noone has the time to watch 500 youtube videos either, which form of evidence would you prefer for discerning truth? what people say, or what the data shows?


thats exactly the issue i'm trying to adress, stop taking peoples word and start doing the research, it wouldnt even take much data to convince me fracking can cause earthquakes, but what youve given thus far is literally nothing (minor correlation and a lady on a satire website)


NO! thats the point, you shouldn't believe what anyone tells you about anything, you should check for yourself, run some tests, check the numbers, its insane to beleive things based on anecdotal testimony


Excuse me ? for one I came to these conclusions doing my own home work, before i ever got on youtube.. By researching ..And using my senses like sight. Maybe you lucky and you do not see what we see here...crazy chem trails or even military shaft or what ever they call it .. it is not disputed they spray that shit over military operations .. hmm you using the youtube must be real card now.. lol tactics used by the media ..do not believe what your neighbor says just believe us.. All good you seem reasonable and maybe i easy to believe what i see... But if you think some do not try control information today you as gullible as much as i am

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