Irrelevant argument, it's not a commodity. But you do have to pay people to teach, facilities and grounds don't come free so there are going to be expenses regardless.

Not everyone needs 3 masters degrees for free.

facilities, grounds and teachers don't need to come free, ill pay as much as i'm needed to in order to further the species, i just wish a few more would join me.

Do a degree in a different country if you are struggling to get accepted for whatever reason where you are living.

Having the greater pool of funds throw $30k~ a year per person so that they can party with their frat buddies is the most insane waste of resources I could imagine.

i don't know how many times i can say it, education is not a commodity.

Then enforce the people who are being "educated" to do just that.
If you drop out or fail you have to pay it back - this ensures that less people take their education for granted.

You see any dollar sign and associate that with a commodity, just shows how far modern education has fallen.

Nothing is free, the expenses of running an education institution as mentioned earlier are unavoidable. So someone (the average working class) is paying for it.

nothings free in life gonna cost big bucks to tax payers x(

i don't like penalties for learning, but i could certainly be swayed to penalize dropouts as its a rather small portion of my objections.

no, i see putting a dollar value on education as wrong, big difference.

i agree, nothing is free, but education should be, we need brains to survive indefinitely as a species (and the best brains tend to come from impoverished neighborhoods)

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I mean I can see your line of thinking, but it's really not logical.

Try spending 30 years of your life becoming a teacher and doing it for free. It's not going to happen.
People need short-term incentives, this is what socialist/communist societies don't understand.
They can run on the fear-based systems of everyone is fucked if you don't play your part, or they can encourage people to be free-willed and work their best at creating and inventing ways of doing things better all it requires is incentives.

Why do most people get a uni degree? So they can make more money, it's the primary argument from the everyone who pushes for more university education.

"teacher" has always been a sidejob, this is going to sound crazy to you if you think of education as a commodity, but there are scientists/researchers who teach as a secondary job (in my experiences, most do, but i haven't checked statistics)

exploration/colonization used to be incentive enough, very soon it will be again, our generation just happened to miss out. Short term incentives won't motivate the lazy and won't deterr the determined.

i'm not saying free education is easy, or even economically viable at the moment, what i am saying, is that it should be. We shouldn't have second rate degree mills, we shouldnt have 400k per year gym teachers, we shouldnt have to pay 22k for 1.5 year tuition. education shouldn't be a commodity.