why is this even a thread.. superman wouldn't be able to take on any saiyan of any power level.. hes strong compared to a human, he is very weak compared to majority of anime characters

Guess you have never read the original superman series, they had to tone him down because he was too powerful, able to time travel, throw galaxys around, incinerate anything instantly, see through anything etc.
Nothing could beat pre crisis superman.

I guess you haven't, superman had trouble with even flash.. who is just fast.. superman isn't that strong, his whole species is about as regular as they come with a little bit of power... they were just raised on a planet like Jupiter.. lets say we were a species from the moon, used to the moons gravity.. we would be nearly dead just walking on earth



I hope you realize goku pre-super saiyan has enough power to blow up our solar system, he can also breath in space..

This post was edited by GRATS on Aug 10 2011 10:10pm

superman wins

No he cant, the whole fight with frieza shows that he cant.
Pre crisis superman made flash look like he was standing still, you read one crappy new age series and assume to be an expert? i have read it all, and watched every dragonball episode + movie.

yes he can, pure-bread saiyans can breath in space, ever watch vegeta train to become super saiyan in the astroid fields without an atmosphere? You have no idea how far my knowledge surpasses yours.

flash and superman combined aren't 1/1000th the speed of ssj4 goku







superman struggles to catch a car and a boat when they're falling.. goku trains with two 100,000 ton braclets in the afterworld.. as non super saiyan.. as super saiyan he acts as if they're lighter than us putting on a wrist-watch.

This post was edited by GRATS on Aug 10 2011 10:15pm

Again, you are talking about crisis version superman, the superman of the seventies was juggling planets before he was a teenager.
Goku cant breath in space, he says it himself in the frieza saga, he puts on a suit to go out and repair his ship also.
Can goku move so fast he can time travel? No, can he fly from one side of the universe to the other in an instant? no, superman does both of these many times pre crisis.

keep in mind, it was pre-crisis supermans costume that was invulnerable, not the man himself.. goku is on a league that is millions of times stronger than superman, so strong.. in fact, that the beings can't even exist on the same plotline as each other because superman wouldn't be more significant than mr satan's dog.

which is a power level that isn't even 1/100000th of ssj4 goku's power, thanks.

YOU'RE A FOOL, a complete moron, if you think goku knows anything about himself.

vegeta proves it, countless times, that goku knows nearly nothing about the saiyan race, which makes complete sense.. you and EVERY OTHER person who has ever said "goku says it himself when he talks to freiza" prove that you know nothing about dbz, you shouldn't even be in a discussion with someone on my level

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Gotta agree to disagree, ssj4 goku never does a single thing thats truly impressive.
Pre crisis superman AND his costume were invulnerable, google more :X