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May 23 2016 06:29am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 23 2016 01:21pm)
...the next step is engagement and marriage not cohabitation .


Engagement is indeed what comes before marriage. It is, quite literally, a promise to get married. If you're not ready for marriage, you don't get engaged. In other words, you still have no point.

You know, I really enjoy your posts. You tell people you're an oldtimer, but I've never met anyone with such a childish urge to bicker about things that absolutely don't matter.
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May 23 2016 06:32am
Quote (Multifunktionsdrucker @ May 23 2016 02:18pm)
i rly dont get this point, why you have to move on and try to take the "next step" in your relationship?

to marry someone isnt necessary in our modern live.
its a lifestyle that you get exemplified by the media and other ppl who think it is the only right way to go.

why ppl dont get their own sake? everyone is try to get the same, as they get told to be.


It isn't a necessity. However, it's what the majority of people are looking for in their lives. When you're in a relationship, the unspoken "default" assumption is that you'll end up living together if the relationship lasts longer than a couple of years.

I'm not saying that you're wrong or that your girlfriend is right. However, since you have a lifestyle that seems to diverge slightly from what most people want, I think you need to communicate clearly about this. Preferably early on in the relationship.

Remember that there are many women who want exactly the same thing you want. You'll probably end up with one of these if you play your cards right. This kind of compatibility is important in long term relationships.
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May 23 2016 06:54am
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It isn't a necessity. However, it's what the majority of people are looking for in their lives. When you're in a relationship, the unspoken "default" assumption is that you'll end up living together if the relationship lasts longer than a couple of years.

I'm not saying that you're wrong or that your girlfriend is right. However, since you have a lifestyle that seems to diverge slightly from what most people want, I think you need to communicate clearly about this. Preferably early on in the relationship.

Remember that there are many women who want exactly the same thing you want. You'll probably end up with one of these if you play your cards right. This kind of compatibility is important in long term relationships.


i rly had to smile at this point... your so damn right.

maybe ive to let her go and find her own way in this world, wow that hurts in my heart.
i like to spend my time with her, i like to travel with her, i like her style and for sure her body... shes near to be perfect for me and she always catch me to get me back to the ground when i start to fly away. shes like my grounding for my live.

but maybe your right, our long term opinions are at the moment differend to each other, maybe ill change my mind in some years, but whats up if i dont? she will be sad for her whole live with me, if i cant give her an own family with childrens and a 24/7 man who play her personal entertainment coordinator for the rest of her live.

This post was edited by Multifunktionsdrucker on May 23 2016 06:55am
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i rly had to smile at this point... your so damn right.

maybe ive to let her go and find her own way in this world, wow that hurts in my heart.
i like to spend my time with her, i like to travel with her, i like her style and for sure her body... shes near to be perfect for me and she always catch me to get me back to the ground when i start to fly away. shes like my grounding for my live.

but maybe your right, our long term opinions are at the moment differend to each other, maybe ill change my mind in some years, but whats up if i dont? she will be sad for her whole live with me, if i cant give her an own family with childrens and a 24/7 man who play her personal entertainment coordinator for the rest of her live.


To be honest, I think there's a realistic chance that you'll change your point of view indeed. The marriage paradigm isn't something the media taught us; it's a cultural thing that our society has relied on for multiple centuries -- probably decades. Once we start making money and have to live of our own means, we tend to find that life is a whole lot easier when you can share all of your duties & obligations with a significant other.

That still doesn't mean that it has to be like this though. To each their own. My advice to you is to follow your gut feeling and be honest with your girlfriend. If this situation is a dealbreaker to either of you, you'll have to embrace that.
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May 23 2016 07:20am
Quote (Reset @ May 23 2016 03:14am)
why would you not expect her to want to live together after 4 years lol...


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May 23 2016 07:27am
either you love her enough to move and make the sacrifice or call it quits ez
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Run away Simba...Run. Run away and never return
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Quote (Multifunktionsdrucker @ May 23 2016 12:14am)
hey dudes, what should i do im in trouble....

i always rejected my girls wish to get an apartment together with her, because i love my own life and i dont want to give it up for her.
the most of my friends who got an apartment with her girls got traped into this and now they arnt rly happy about this situation.

... so she took her first own flat in her home town ~1month ago and its around 30miles away from my home town. i told here far before she took the flat, that i would never live there, because its to far away from the university were i study for the next years and its also to far away from my company. with an own car i would think about it, but i dont own a car, because i rly dont need one as student in the town and its also a bit expensive as student.

yesterday she told me that shes so unhappy, that she cant wake up every morning with me and she would like to live with me together.... i thought "wow, wtf is going on... you got your own flat now for some weeks and force this fucking discussion again?!"
so i tried to tell her, that i cant leave the town, because it dosnt make sense for me, its to far away from the university and my company. she got rly angy and said to me, that all her befriended couples get further with thier relationship but we stuck in a point for years and if i would rly love her, i would live together with her in her new flat....

what to do now? guys... every normal human would understand, that its totaly brainless to get out of the city, when you study there for the next years and got your job ~3miles away from your flat.

some ideas, how to get out of this trouble and maybe some tips what i should tell her....?


If she respects you, she will be happy with whatever decision you make.

Quote (Multifunktionsdrucker @ May 23 2016 12:42am)
uff, we are now since 4 and a half year in a relationship... i know that i have to give up my lifestyle someday, but imo the time isnt came for this already.
shes only 22 and im 25 years old, it isnt the time to get childrens and break up the partylife with my friends for her.

at the moment my education is the most important part for me and my future life and after that, i could think about a house / flat on the countryside.
but for the moment theres not a single argument to get there, just the nearness to her would be a positive effect, but i dont need this... shes the one who wants to live with me together... so why the hell should i move away to her?


Don't let yourself get guilt tripped/forced into doing something that you aren't ready for. Sit down and have a serious talk with her about it.

Maybe try to agree upon seeing each other a bit more, if your schedules allow it.
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May 23 2016 09:08am
Quote (howtodisappearcompletely @ May 23 2016 07:32am)
It isn't a necessity. However, it's what the majority of people are looking for in their lives. When you're in a relationship, the unspoken "default" assumption is that you'll end up living together if the relationship lasts longer than a couple of years.

I'm not saying that you're wrong or that your girlfriend is right. However, since you have a lifestyle that seems to diverge slightly from what most people want, I think you need to communicate clearly about this. Preferably early on in the relationship.

Remember that there are many women who want exactly the same thing you want. You'll probably end up with one of these if you play your cards right. This kind of compatibility is important in long term relationships.


I wanted to say something akin to this, but I'm posting from a phone.
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May 23 2016 09:46am
Sounds rough, spending time with someone that wants you.

Ill keep you in prayers
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