Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 2 May 2016 10:23)

Yep, more pathetic attempts at pretending that correlation is causation.

Fine, here are some sources that you won't actually pay attention to and which won't convince you at all even though they're actually true and aren't just from cherry-picked racist sources:

https://nothinginbiology.org/2014/07/08/a-guide-to-the-science-and-pseudoscience-of-a-troublesome-inheritance-part-ii-has-natural-selection-favored-violent-behavior-in-some-human-populations/

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/code-rage-the-warrior-gene-makes-me-mad-whether-i-have-it-or-not/

Feel free to make your mealy-mouthed excuses for why you're not going to listen to these people who actually understand the science. Then we can move on to your "Black people commit more crime therefore they must be naturally inclined to do so" fallacious reasoning.

Quote (Hubris @ 1 May 2016 16:43)

To be fair though I haven't dedicated a long time to reading the science of aggression so I won't continue to use MAOA as evidence.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ May 1 2016 08:12pm)

Okay, so now should we talk about the fact that black people in the US have really shitty educational opportunities thanks to legal policies that were active as late as the late 70s like redlining, and that that in turn feeds into a complex multi-part system that restricts economic opportunities and how being shit upon and having restricted economic opportunities make crime a lot more appealing, and so trying to quote crime statistics as though they say something about the fundamental nature of black people is an absolutely junk attempt at correlation without showing a hint of causation?




apologies for the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UXpmvu35Fk

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 2 May 2016 11:12)

Okay, so now should we talk about the fact that black people in the US have really shitty educational opportunities thanks to legal policies that were active as late as the late 70s like redlining, and that that in turn feeds into a complex multi-part system that restricts economic opportunities and how being shit upon and having restricted economic opportunities make crime a lot more appealing, and so trying to quote crime statistics as though they say something about the fundamental nature of black people is an absolutely junk attempt at correlation without showing a hint of causation?




apologies for the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UXpmvu35Fk

Quote (dude_927 @ 1 May 2016 17:14)

all of this could have been one word: poverty

Quote (Hubris @ 1 May 2016 17:23)

I don't disagree with these points at all.
But making people feel like they are victims with everything from the focus on black slavery to modern racism only detracts from their opportunities.
It really is a case of ignorance being bliss. If they didn't focus on these foibles they could focus on their real issues such as the housing slums, crime and lifestyles that go with it.

I don't know if there are any easy answers, but free handouts and the things that the majority of left-leaning individuals espouse aren't it.

Quote (Hubris @ May 1 2016 06:23pm)

I don't disagree with these points at all.
But making people feel like they are victims with everything from the focus on black slavery to modern racism only detracts from their opportunities.

Quote (Hubris @ May 1 2016 06:23pm)

It really is a case of ignorance being bliss. If they didn't focus on these foibles they could focus on their real issues such as the housing slums, crime and lifestyles that go with it.

Quote (Hubris @ May 1 2016 06:23pm)

I don't know if there are any easy answers, but free handouts and the things that the majority of left-leaning individuals espouse aren't it.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ May 1 2016 06:31pm)

You can draw a straight line from slavery to Jim Crow to redlining to black poverty to shitty schools in black neighborhoods. Acknowledging that there's still a long way to go to compensate for that shit and help black people rise up is actually pretty reasonable, considering that we've still got people alive who had firehoses and attack dogs set on them because they wanted to be able to vote and eat lunch where white people eat.

Quote (Tuna_BeIIy @ May 1 2016 07:30pm)

Using panthers as a black person analogy is kinda racist

Quote (dude_927 @ May 1 2016 03:42pm)

a list of less than ten people in your personal interactions does not account for an "overwhelming majority", 90% means 90 out of one hundred, not 3 out of 500 (unless the three cases mentioned are the only black people you've ever seen walking home)

p.s. i sincerely, from the deepest place in my heart, hope you get robbed and stabbed by a white guy

Quote (Hubris @ May 1 2016 04:07pm)

Aggression and the "Warrior gene"

A version of the monoamine oxidase-A gene has been popularly referred to as the warrior gene. Several different versions of the gene are found in different individuals, although a functional gene is present in most humans (with the exception of a few individuals with Brunner syndrome). In the variant, the allele associated with behavioural traits is shorter (30 bases) and may produce less MAO-A enzyme. This gene variation is in a regulatory promoter region about 1000 bases from the start of the region that encodes the MAO-A enzyme.

Studies have found differences in the frequency distribution of variants of the MAOA gene between ethnic groups: of the participants,59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carried the 3R allele, while 5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carried the 2R allele.