Quote (HeyMan @ Jun 16 2012 12:40pm)

When I was talking about things being hereditary, I was not including obesity, because that IS just an excuse. I was talking about much more serious diseases. Autoimmune disorders and whatnot.

Of course you can post a story about a guy who was told that he would never walk again and then he does walk again. That's not the norm though, it's an exception. For every person that walked after being told they couldn't, how many do you think really couldn't ever walk? A LOT more.

In the end, some things are simply out of control no matter how hard we try and want it. If you think otherwise then you're just naive imo.

Quote (ponylegs @ Jun 16 2012 12:42pm)

i argue the opposite. maybe you won't ever walk again, maybe you never will be fit, who knows. but are you going to be that guy who doesn't try and just believes what people say? i don't care if i had brain cancer, one leg, and had all kinds of shitty stuff going on in my body, i'd still lift.

Quote (D2Jomblified @ Jun 16 2012 11:45am)

I'm up 744 and taking a break

Quote (scruffy4004 @ Jun 16 2012 11:46am)

gj now giv ur budy Ryan 200 lmao

Quote (HeyMan @ Jun 16 2012 12:45pm)

No, I'm all for trying. I don't think you should ever give up trying something. I'm just saying that sometimes it doesn't make any difference and you're fucked either way, and that's not some "loser excuse".

Staying positive always helps but it doesn't mean anything positive will actually come out of it. Just like you can believe in god all you want but that doesn't make him real.

Quote (D2Jomblified @ Jun 16 2012 11:46am)

LOL
maybeh when i get moar

Quote (ponylegs @ Jun 16 2012 12:47pm)

i just find it hard to respect someone who isn't willing to try and make a change for themselves, instead they just accept defeat. it's not admirable at all. maybe you are fucked, but you won't not be fucked if you're not willing to put in some blood, sweat, and tears.