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Jun 20 2016 10:46am
Quote (cowbooty @ Jun 20 2016 12:29am)
Glad they devoted so much time to that fight. Shit was awesome when the cavalry lines collided around jon. And the giant was great to. Surprised ramsay went down with a fight, thought he would take the fuck off. Thought his death was great, Rickon though, that one was slightly brutal to me.


nah dude, the giant's death was way more brutal.
that giant helped alot, if it wasnt for him they probably couldn't get through that castle they retreated to
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Jun 20 2016 10:48am
Quote (Essick @ Jun 20 2016 09:59am)
First Geoffy as the bad guy, then Rasmey, who's going to be the new Villain?


high sparrow is the only enemy left
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Jun 20 2016 12:35pm
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high sparrow is the only enemy left



Every living Lannister besides Tyrion is an enemy, at least if you view the Stark family as the protagonists of the show.

Ultimately the show is not about good guys and bad guys, the show doesn't need anyone to be an "enemy". It's about 4 noble houses battling for power and it's always been that way. 5 if you count the Tyrells. On top of that you have the white walkers who are really the only true enemy on the show.

Anyone not Stark, Lannister, Baratheon, Tyrell or Targaryan is just a small time player in the game.

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Jun 20 2016 12:36pm
Quote (TrialErorr @ Jun 20 2016 12:48pm)
high sparrow is the only enemy left


Night King, littlefinger, Tommen, Daenerys, Tyrion.. etc.

Tommen makes me miss Joffrey.
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Jun 20 2016 12:41pm
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Night King, littlefinger, Tommen, Daenerys, Tyrion.. etc.

Tommen makes me miss Joffrey.



besides the night king none of these characters are enemies.
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Jun 20 2016 01:11pm
Quote (KronicDW @ Jun 20 2016 02:41pm)
besides the night king none of these characters are enemies.


They are the enemies of plenty of people.
As you were getting at, its about perspective.

Daenarys leaves massacres in her wake and wants to slaughter a bunch more people to claim "her" throne and rule over everyone else.

Tyrion is a murderer, child abuser, and dubious conspirer .. A Lannister that talked the hill tribes into taking up arms against the starks, 'led' them into battle, and promised them the vale.
G Martin himself called him a villain. Being a joker and likable character doesn't change that.

Tommen is a spineless religious fanatic and king. Not a good combination.

Littlefinger is perhaps the shadiest of the bunch and is responsible for Ned Stark's death. Helping out because he wanted to bang Stark's wife and daughter doesn't exactly absolve him of that.

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I don't watch it
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Jun 20 2016 01:19pm
High Sparrow can come out on top in either 2 ways

He has converted Tommen into a fanatic and has him on a leash, a way to keep the faith militant at the top in power

OR

Tommen is fanatical and played right into his hand, as Cersei stands trial for incest, which won't be by combat, which would make the loyal and stupid Tommen illegitimate by the laws. But... who would he have take Tommen's place? This seems unlikely, because whether Tommen is a fanatic or not is kind of irrelevant, becase Margaery is faking it and likely has control over Tommen.
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Jun 20 2016 01:20pm
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High Sparrow can come out on top in either 2 ways

He has converted Tommen into a fanatic and has him on a leash, a way to keep the faith militant at the top in power

OR

Tommen is fanatical and played right into his hand, as Cersei stands trial for incest, which won't be by combat, which would make the loyal and stupid Tommen illegitimate by the laws. But... who would he have take Tommen's place? This seems unlikely, because whether Tommen is a fanatic or not is kind of irrelevant, becase Margaery is faking it and likely has control over Tommen.


I kind of hope Cersei kills tommen herself tbh

Tommen is a little girl, I would have rekt the high sparrow along time ago... As anyone should know, theres no room for weakness on this show. The weak always die

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Quote (Sakuraba @ Jun 20 2016 01:19pm)
High Sparrow can come out on top in either 2 ways

He has converted Tommen into a fanatic and has him on a leash, a way to keep the faith militant at the top in power

OR

Tommen is fanatical and played right into his hand, as Cersei stands trial for incest, which won't be by combat, which would make the loyal and stupid Tommen illegitimate by the laws. But... who would he have take Tommen's place? This seems unlikely, because whether Tommen is a fanatic or not is kind of irrelevant, becase Margaery is faking it and likely has control over Tommen.


In a bench trial the 7 septons can seperate the charges, a trial by combat not so much.

So whereas if CleganeBowl happened, and hound killed mountain Cersei would be guilty of Incest and Tommen would lose the crown, instead in the bench trial the Septons can find Cersei guilty of regicide and innocent of incest. Or even guilty of Incest with Lancel but innocent of incest with Jaime, as the Lancel thing started after Bobby B was dead that narrative makes sense. Either way Tommen's crown should be safe.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 20 2016 01:11pm)
They are the enemies of plenty of people.
As you were getting at, its about perspective.

Daenarys leaves massacres in her wake and wants to slaughter a bunch more people to claim "her" throne and rule over everyone else.

Tyrion is a murderer, child abuser, and dubious conspirer .. A Lannister that talked the hill tribes into taking up arms against the starks, 'led' them into battle, and promised them the vale.
G Martin himself called him a villain. Being a joker and likable character doesn't change that.

Tommen is a spineless religious fanatic and king. Not a good combination.

Littlefinger is perhaps the shadiest of the bunch and is responsible for Ned Stark's death. Helping out because he wanted to bang Stark's wife and daughter doesn't exactly absolve him of that.


wat?

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