Quote (AnimeFTW @ Jun 13 2016 10:33am)

I keep seeing people defending the second amendment with arguments about how they need to be able to fight off a tyrannical government if the need arises.

I'm honestly amazed that people can be so confident as to think their pathetic gun can counter ANYTHING the military has to offer. We have a device that, when pointed at a group of people, makes their skin feel like it's burst into flames. The most anyone has been able to endure it was 5 seconds. We have handheld laser arrays that can instantly and permanently blind you. We have unpiloted autonomous tanks. We're working on invisibility. We have grenade launchers that can time a grenade to explode just before it hits you, ensuring maximum damage and no chance of throwing a grenade back. We have lasers so powerful they can shoot down missiles and aircraft. Imagine what that can do to a person.

Why do people think their AR-15 is going to help in any way?

Quote (Diutinus @ Jun 13 2016 12:48pm)

I'm fully aware, I'm not very familiar with guns, so that was my error. I choose to have nothing to do with guns.

BUT
People think they need all sorts of intense weaponry when, technically, they're only really "entitled" to the more "plain jane" shit like a pistol, etc.

Quote (AnimeFTW @ Jun 13 2016 12:38pm)

Ah yes, the Japanese internment camps really drove that point home. They definitely won't lay a hand on US citizens.

Quote (Diutinus @ Jun 13 2016 12:48pm)

I'm fully aware, I'm not very familiar with guns, so that was my error. I choose to have nothing to do with guns.

BUT
People think they need all sorts of intense weaponry when, technically, they're only really "entitled" to the more "plain jane" shit like a pistol, etc.

Quote (dro94 @ Jun 13 2016 12:56pm)

A libertarian may argue that civilians should be allowed to own every type of weapon that the military and police own, who exist as a result of taxpayer funding. In this scenario, the civilian population would have a good shot at displacing a tyrannical government.

Quote (dro94 @ Jun 13 2016 10:56am)

A libertarian may argue that civilians should be allowed to own every type of weapon that the military and police own, who exist as a result of taxpayer funding. In this scenario, the civilian population would have a good shot at displacing a tyrannical government.

Quote (AnimeFTW @ Jun 13 2016 06:03pm)

Even if you could own every type of weapon the military does, which will never happen, you couldn't afford it. An organized militia couldn't even afford it. About half of the entire GDP of the US is spent on military funding. Good luck buying that F-22 Raptor and the mechanics needed to service it.

Quote (AnimeFTW @ Jun 13 2016 01:03pm)

Even if you could own every type of weapon the military does, which will never happen, you couldn't afford it. An organized militia couldn't even afford it. About half of the entire GDP of the US is spent on military funding. Good luck buying that F-22 Raptor and the mechanics needed to service it.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 13 2016 01:11pm)

However, since it is extremely unlikely that every single member of our armed forces would agree with orders to carry out strikes against our own population, the chances of individuals (or entire units) defecting, and bringing their equipment with the support of the populace is reasonably much higher than zero. This is particularly more likely with National Guard/Reserve units, and they have their own air wings, with their own F-22s, complete with pilots AND maintenance personnel.

Quote (AnimeFTW @ Jun 13 2016 07:03pm)

Even if you could own every type of weapon the military does, which will never happen, you couldn't afford it. An organized militia couldn't even afford it. About half of the entire GDP of the US is spent on military funding. Good luck buying that F-22 Raptor and the mechanics needed to service it.