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May 18 2012 10:52am
Quote (ClancyBrown @ May 18 2012 11:51am)
Jesus didn't eat pork bro.

.. He came to fulfill Jewish law.


Ill s/s it and show you
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May 18 2012 10:55am
Quote (HulaHoopChicka @ May 18 2012 10:52am)
Ill s/s it and show you


There was pork at the last supper because he released his disciples from old testament law by fulfilling them as such.

.. the gentiles ate pork. Jesus did not.
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May 18 2012 10:56am
Quote (ClancyBrown @ May 18 2012 09:04am)
:hug:

Stay strong bro.

Don't let these pork lovers get to you


The sausage you were describing a few posts back is a pork product as well.
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There was pork at the last supper because he released his disciples from old testament law by fulfilling them as such.

.. the gentiles ate pork. Jesus did not.


Despite the temptation of giving a simple answer, this is a harder question than meets the eye.
As well as being wholly divine Jesus was also wholly a human being, and a Jew. Therefore, he would have, on face value, adhered to the Jewish customs of the day, which included not eating the flesh of pigs (pork, ham, etc).
However, Jesus spoke on many occasions about the Jewish Law. On one occasion, where he was criticised by the Pharisees for not ritually washing his hands before a meal, he said:

"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."
Then the disciples came and said to Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?"But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. "Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
[Matthew 15: 10-12]


In this - the most Jewish of the gospels, Matthew surprisingly has Jesus saying that what they ate was of no consequence - but only what came out of their mouths (eg slander, gossip, hate, hurtful words etc) that was the problem.
Therefore in answer to the question 'Did jesus eat pork' the answer is that we simply do not know, as nowhere in the gospels does it state that he either ate pork or abstained. However, whilst being a Jew who would normally have abstained from pork, it is also quite likely that he did eat it, if he was to abide by his own teaching.




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Quote (Wretch @ May 18 2012 09:48am)
while i'm at it my personality isn't swayed by internet memes either


Bacon was delicious well before the internet was a thing.
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May 18 2012 10:57am
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The sausage you were describing a few posts back is a pork product as well.


and made from inferior cuts compared to bacon at that

.. :mellow:
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May 18 2012 10:58am
That's fine.
You don't have to eat bacon.
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May 18 2012 10:59am
Quote (ClancyBrown @ May 18 2012 08:58am)
I understand your feeling deceived.

.. you have my apologies.




I don''t hate bacon.. really

.. I just don't buy in to the bacon hype.


A proper country sausage patty > bacon


bacon >
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Despite the temptation of giving a simple answer, this is a harder question than meets the eye.
As well as being wholly divine Jesus was also wholly a human being, and a Jew. Therefore, he would have, on face value, adhered to the Jewish customs of the day, which included not eating the flesh of pigs (pork, ham, etc).
However, Jesus spoke on many occasions about the Jewish Law. On one occasion, where he was criticised by the Pharisees for not ritually washing his hands before a meal, he said:

"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."
Then the disciples came and said to Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?"But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. "Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
[Matthew 15: 10-12]


In this - the most Jewish of the gospels, Matthew surprisingly has Jesus saying that what they ate was of no consequence - but only what came out of their mouths (eg slander, gossip, hate, hurtful words etc) that was the problem.
Therefore in answer to the question 'Did jesus eat pork' the answer is that we simply do not know, as nowhere in the gospels does it state that he either ate pork or abstained. However, whilst being a Jew who would normally have abstained from pork, it is also quite likely that he did eat it, if he was to abide by his own teaching.


Did you even read that?

This post was edited by ClancyBrown on May 18 2012 11:00am
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There is nothing I enjoy more than well-cooked livestock.
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