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Jan 16 2012 11:03am
atropos is the best 1v1 hero derp
though if you're going to have a 1v1 that matters you should do duplicate heroes
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Jan 16 2012 11:06am
Just remembered slithice.

Can be very deadly with manta style and those images
mana burn, critical strike, etc.

if she needs to get away, she'll just use ult and you'll never kill her

Quote (infallibleleo @ Jan 16 2012 06:37am)
with a starting gold of 4k in a 1v1 dota match, i would say Ursa warrior is still far better. The starting item would be Vanguard, Phase Boots, with Vladimir Offering. With these items, it is enough to dominate.


Terrorblade can replicate syllabear (you fight yourself), use that one slow move, and also sunder if you get him low.
terrorblade will have no problem imo.
Then there's metamorphosis and manta and images for terrorblade.



This post was edited by Act1 on Jan 16 2012 11:08am
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Jan 16 2012 11:09am
Quote (impulse155 @ 17 Jan 2012 01:03)
Can beat an ursa any day with spec. Especially in dota 2.
Also my meepo is pretty nasty.

U got dota 2 beta?

And at above, lol@ sniper


just by using the heroes skill, ursa will win spectre. go ahead and try it. you're right spectre's 3rd skill (dispersion) can deal some dmg to ursa. also with lvl 4 of that spell, 20% of damage is reflected in an AOE but not directly on the heroes. so the creeps in lane can tank some dmg.

At the end of the battle though, last man standing will be ursa.


you'll need blademail to get him.
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Quote (huntersghost @ Jan 16 2012 09:09am)
just by using the heroes skill, ursa will win spectre. go ahead and try it.  you're right spectre's 3rd skill (dispersion) can deal some dmg to ursa. also with lvl 4 of that spell, 20% of damage is reflected in an AOE but not directly on the heroes. so the creeps in lane can tank some dmg.

At the end of the battle though, last man standing will be ursa.


you'll need blademail to get him.


Any character with images work best again ursa.
once he uses up all his empower or whatever the spell that allows him to attack extremely fast for a few attacks, he's kind of useless and won't get the open wounds thing going.

Terrorblade... as I mentioned above or naga for the getaway and images
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Jan 16 2012 11:11am
Quote (huntersghost @ Jan 16 2012 01:09pm)
just by using the heroes skill, ursa will win spectre. go ahead and try it.  you're right spectre's 3rd skill (dispersion) can deal some dmg to ursa. also with lvl 4 of that spell, 20% of damage is reflected in an AOE but not directly on the heroes. so the creeps in lane can tank some dmg.

At the end of the battle though, last man standing will be ursa.


you'll need blademail to get him.


My build against an ursa would be Vanguard --> boots --> blademail b4 radi or diffusal
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Jan 16 2012 11:14am
Quote (Act1 @ Jan 16 2012 01:11pm)
Any character with images work best again ursa.
once he uses up all his empower or whatever the spell that allows him to attack extremely fast for a few attacks, he's kind of useless and won't get the open wounds thing going.

Terrorblade... as I mentioned above or naga for the getaway and images


I would put naga above tb just because of nagas ult in a 1v1 late game is too op. Can just dive towers + easy getaway
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Quote (Act1 @ 17 Jan 2012 01:11)
Any character with images work best again ursa.
once he uses up all his empower or whatever the spell that allows him to attack extremely fast for a few attacks, he's kind of useless and won't get the open wounds thing going.

Terrorblade... as I mentioned above or naga for the getaway and images


i still wouldnt suggest you underestimate ursa warrior though.
naga vs ursa warrior = ursa wins.

ursa's dmg is far superior than naga and can control naga easily if it wants to go head on.
if im playing ursa warrior against naga, i'll be playing "pushing lanes" and end the game quick.
after all, naga will find it difficult to kill ursa head on due to his immense dmg. on the other hand, ursa will also find it difficult to kill a skilled naga as it has net and "song of siren" to run away.
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Jan 16 2012 11:19am
Quote (impulse155 @ 17 Jan 2012 01:11)
My build against an ursa would be Vanguard --> boots --> blademail b4 radi or diffusal


the thing about Blademail is that it can only last 10secs per cast. Having said that, Ursa would definitely stop hitting when u activate it. Once 10secs over, he will just wack again. Hence, blademail is effectively useless against Ursa.
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Jan 16 2012 11:21am
Quote (huntersghost @ Jan 16 2012 01:19pm)
i still wouldnt suggest you underestimate ursa warrior though.
naga vs ursa warrior = ursa wins.

ursa's dmg is far superior than naga and can control naga easily if it wants to go head on.
if im playing ursa warrior against naga, i'll be playing "pushing lanes" and end the game quick.
after all, naga will find it difficult to kill ursa head on due to his immense dmg. on the other hand, ursa will also find it difficult to kill a skilled naga as it has net and "song of siren" to run away.


You shouldnt be able to outfarm a naga early game if he has images.
I still think net + images + diffusal + manta + song is too much for ursa
Therefore, naga > ursa
But I still think spec can 1v1 either one of them.

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Quote (infallibleleo @ Jan 16 2012 01:19pm)
the thing about Blademail is that it can only last 10secs per cast. Having said that, Ursa would definitely stop hitting when u activate it. Once 10secs over, he will just wack again. Hence, blademail is effectively useless against Ursa.


10 secs/cast 20 sec cd.
Your saying its easy to evade spec, but thats like me saying Well when ursa trys to use his multi hit on me, I just run away.


This post was edited by impulse155 on Jan 16 2012 11:21am
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Quote (huntersghost @ 17 Jan 2012 01:19)
i still wouldnt suggest you underestimate ursa warrior though.
naga vs ursa warrior = ursa wins.

ursa's dmg is far superior than naga and can control naga easily if it wants to go head on.
if im playing ursa warrior against naga, i'll be playing "pushing lanes" and end the game quick.
after all, naga will find it difficult to kill ursa head on due to his immense dmg. on the other hand, ursa will also find it difficult to kill a skilled naga as it has net and "song of siren" to run away.


From level 1-5, ursa will definitely own naga without a doubt. However, if u allow the game to drag to super late game i.e. Level 20+, Naga will win.

One thing we have to take note is that 1v1 Dota match seldom last that long. Hence, Ursa will win.
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