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Jun 24 2013 12:05pm
Quote (sicklad @ 24 Jun 2013 19:02)
Isn't satanism at it's core just mindless self indulgence?


Great band btw.

Yes, it is. But not mindless. It's conscious self indulgence. It's putting yourself first and being intolerant of the weak that drain you of your resources without returning anything and those who are harmful to you.
It's one reason why I'm not a member anymore. I believe there are many people who need our help and we should give it to them regardless of whether it will benefit us or not.

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Jun 24 2013 12:07pm
Do you wear all black and smoke cigs behind a highschool while listening to my chemical romance?
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Jun 24 2013 12:08pm
Quote (Vivienne @ Jun 25 2013 05:05am)
Great band btw.

Yes, it is. But not mindless. It's conscious self indulgence. It's putting yourself first and being intolerant of the weak that drain you of your resources without returning anything and those who are harmful to you.
It's one reason why I'm not a member anymore. I believe there are many people who need our help and we should give it to them regardless of whether it will benefit us or not.


Yeah I used to listen to them a bit.

Conscious has nothing to do with mindless.

Mindless is exactly what you said, paying no regard to those around you, and irrational intolerance.

/e: I guess "conscious" could be interpreted as "living for oneself".

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Jun 24 2013 12:15pm
Quote (sicklad @ 24 Jun 2013 19:08)
Yeah I used to listen to them a bit.

Conscious has nothing to do with mindless.

Mindless is exactly what you said, paying no regard to those around you, and irrational intolerance.


Satanists do not view their intolerance of the weak to be irrational. They believe in a kind of 'Survival of the fittest' philosophy. If someone of equal or better ability than you or someone with potential who is willing to work hard for what they want asks you for help then you should give it. It is only the weak and the stupid who they are intolerant toward. But not intolerant in the way of oppressing or attacking them. They simply will not expend their resources to help them.

As for paying no regard to those around you - that would pretty much be antithesis to the philosophy. Everyone is important in the effects they can have on you and your careful evaluation of each person in your life is essential to your forming of social relations in order that they lift you up and not bring you down. The Third Satanic Sin of solipsism explains this well -

"Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point."

Quote (Damagee @ 24 Jun 2013 19:07)
Do you wear all black and smoke cigs behind a highschool while listening to my chemical romance?


MCR are a fucking awful band.
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Jun 24 2013 12:34pm
Are you a retard?
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Jun 24 2013 01:01pm
If you never truly believed and it was all just theatrics, why do you consider yourself an "ex" satanist?
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Jun 24 2013 01:48pm
Quote (Black487 @ 24 Jun 2013 20:01)
If you never truly believed and it was all just theatrics, why do you consider yourself an "ex" satanist?


Because I did truly believe in the philosophy of Satanism. The theatrics are part of the teachings of that philosophy. My belief in that philosophy was not theatrics but theatrics are part of Satanic ritual.

You see now?

I consider myself an ex-Satanist because as I emotionally matured my beliefs and philosophy changed until they no longer matched that of Satanism.
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Jun 24 2013 01:50pm
I heard satanist drank menstrual cycle milkshakes for initiation, is this true?
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Jun 24 2013 02:02pm
What else floats?
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Jun 24 2013 02:28pm
Quote (kayeto @ 24 Jun 2013 21:02)
What else floats?


Only wood, ducks and witches float.
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