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Oct 25 2014 11:53am
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i'm thinking he has a poster of ken ham on his wall


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Quote (duffman316 @ Oct 25 2014 10:52am)
i'm thinking he has a poster of ken ham on his wall


His wall paper is Ken ham.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Oct 25 2014 12:50pm)
jesus, so quick to anger :mellow:

so when you say your children "know" about god you're saying they know he exists or know he doesn't exist?


they know there is a bible they know they can go to church if they want.

they are free to believe god is the creator if they wish.

they are free to believe that science explains all of earths mysteries.

i do not force beliefs on anybody. i have this idea that we just do not know exactly what happened because we were not there and we do not have enough proof.

personally i dont have many beliefs i just think there is not enough time in a person's life to BELIEVE or KNOW exactly what happened.
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Oct 25 2014 11:55am
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they know there is a bible they know they can go to church if they want.

they are free to believe god is the creator if they wish.

they are free to believe that science explains all of earths mysteries.

i do not force beliefs on anybody.  i have this idea that we just do not know exactly what happened because we were not there and we do not have enough proof.

personally i dont have many beliefs i just think there is not enough time in a person's life to BELIEVE or KNOW exactly what happened.


LOL no

This post was edited by Whiskers on Oct 25 2014 11:55am
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Oct 25 2014 11:58am
Quote (Whiskers @ Oct 25 2014 12:55pm)
LOL no


and you are free to be a closeminded jsper who BELIEVES what somebody or somebodies tell them is fact too. if you wish you can force those beliefs down somebody elses throat untill they choke. but personally i will not have it.
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Oct 25 2014 11:58am
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they know there is a bible they know they can go to church if they want.

they are free to believe god is the creator if they wish.

they are free to believe that science explains all of earths mysteries.

i do not force beliefs on anybody. i have this idea that we just do not know exactly what happened because we were not there and we do not have enough proof.

personally i dont have many beliefs i just think there is not enough time in a person's life to BELIEVE or KNOW exactly what happened.


so .... "if i wasn't there - you can't prove it happened"?

how about your kids? can you prove they are yours considering you can't know if you were there at the exact moment your wife was impregnated?

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and you are free to be a closeminded jsper who BELIEVES what somebody or somebodies tell them is fact too. if you wish you can force those beliefs down somebody elses throat untill they choke. but personally i will not have it.


I'm not close-minded :unsure:

evolution isn't fact, it's a theory with strongly supported hypotheses
religion is neither fact nor theory, it's made up garbage

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I'm not close-minded :unsure:

evolution isn't fact, it's a theory with strongly supported hypotheses
religion is neither fact or theory, it's made up garbage


yes keep on with your strongly supported hypotheses, find some more rudimentary drawings that prove it all, even more than somebody writing a book.

the thing is, that neither can explain it completely, neither have enough proof.

who knows if there is heaven or hell, who knows if when we die we push up daisies or are reincarnated, who knows any of this shit, nobody.

the only fact in this entire conversation we have had here in 7 pages is we do not know, and i mean all of us weather you want to be included or not.

even if it was the crazy alien explanation, where did they come from?

lol
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Oct 25 2014 12:06pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 25 Oct 2014 17:58)
so .... "if i wasn't there - you can't prove it happened"?

how about your kids? can you prove they are yours considering you can't know if you were there at the exact moment your wife was impregnated?


The Ken Ham argument in a nutshell.

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/06/92_percent_say_bill_nye_won_in_christian_today_poll/

e/ lol this article has some amazing quotes

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“I love my pastor’s conclusion to this: After watching the Nye/Ham debate last night I walked away with this one truth: I am not a ‘reasonable man’ I am a sinner saved by God’s grace. I will build my life on that foundation.
Boom. There you have it.”


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yes keep on with your strongly supported hypotheses, find some more rudimentary drawings that prove it all, even more than somebody writing a book.

the thing is, that neither can explain it completely, neither have enough proof.

who knows if there is heaven or hell, who knows if when we die we push up daisies or are reincarnated, who knows any of this shit, nobody.

the only fact in this entire conversation we have had here in 7 pages is we do not know, and i mean all of us weather you want to be included or not.

even if it was the crazy alien explanation, where did they come from?

lol


I'd have to say god banged a monkey...

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