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Quote (Vincenzo @ 16 Jun 2016 12:38)
Aren't all guns banned from civilians in France and they just had that 130 death ISIS attack using AK's like 6 months ago?

Clearly gun control isn't the problem..


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Quote (RzChaos @ Jun 15 2016 09:43pm)
You are wrong.

The AR does not stand for assault rifle, and the AR-15 is not an assault rifle. To my knowledge, an assault rifle has not been used in any mass shooting in recent years

On top of this, there is a clear difference between an assault rifle and an assault weapon, and again, I can't remember a time where one of the defining factors of an assault weapon led to more casualties.

Again, I do think that assault rifles should have in depth background checks/limitations, as they could lead to very deadly circumstances.


ok yes automatic w/e but they are classified as assault weapons with m4s and ar 10s

and on the bold part this jus all i was getting at :P

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Quote (Maddog402 @ Jun 15 2016 09:46pm)
ok yes automatic w/e but they are classified as assault weapons with m4s and ar 10s

and on the bold part this jus all i was getting at :P


Yeah....but assault rifles are already heavily regulated, and there have been like no mass shootings with them, so what is the point of discussing that.

Who cares if something is defined as an assault weapon, that is mostly just a bullshit term created by politicians in order to get "points" with their voters without actually accomplishing anything.

An assault weapon is just a weapon that has two of the following....a bayonet holder/flash suppressor/grenade launcher/pistol grip/one other thing I can't remember off the top of my head. Can you find me a case where one of these defining factors of an assault weapon led to more deaths than if they weapon didn't have these features?
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Quote (RzChaos @ Jun 15 2016 09:50pm)
Yeah....but assault rifles are already heavily regulated, and there have been like no mass shootings with them, so what is the point of discussing that.

Who cares if something is defined as an assault weapon, that is mostly just a bullshit term created by politicians in order to get "points" with their voters without actually accomplishing anything.

An assault weapon is just a weapon that has two of the following....a bayonet holder/flash suppressor/grenade launcher/pistol grip/one other thing I can't remember off the top of my head. Can you find me a case where one of these defining factors of an assault weapon led to more deaths than if they weapon didn't have these features?


Wudnt those be tactical accessories?

i mean there called assault rifles so assault weapon...

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Quote (Maddog402 @ Jun 15 2016 09:52pm)
Wudnt those be tactical accessories?


Yes? Can you find a single case in US mass shootings where one of these defining features of an assault weapon led to an increase in deaths?
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Quote (RzChaos @ Jun 15 2016 09:57pm)
Yes? Can you find a single case in US mass shootings where one of these defining features of an assault weapon led to an increase in deaths?


im jus lost i guess wat ur asking cause ur calling it a assault weapon and asking about the features killing ppl the feature wud be the bullet the assault weapon shot...
dosent matter what the gun has on it... its an assault weapon and the one in orlando had modifications to it to make it lighter etc it was a Sig Sauer MCX not a ar 15 tho

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Quote (Maddog402 @ 16 Jun 2016 13:00)
im jus lost i guess wat ur asking cause ur calling it a assault weapon and asking about the features killing ppl the feature wud be the bullet the assault weapon shot...
dosent matter what the gun has on it... its an assault weapon


why not just say automatic weapon, because that's what you're really leaning on.

These weapons are already incredibly hard to get for the most part, except through criminal means which voids the necessity for a law as the primary means for someone to access a weapon like this for a mass shooting is likely getting it illegally anyway.
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Jun 15 2016 09:05pm
problem is much more complicated than just gun control but gun control is also a large part of the problem

useless arguments
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Quote (Hubris @ Jun 15 2016 10:04pm)
why not just say automatic weapon, because that's what you're really leaning on.

These weapons are already incredibly hard to get for the most part, except through criminal means which voids the necessity for a law as the primary means for someone to access a weapon like this for a mass shooting is likely getting it illegally anyway.


Actually its very ez to get these weapons
I can go down to my local cabelas store and buy one.
There on display everywhere all u need is ur permit to purchase

also automatic is jus a diff mode a assault rifle has(single shot)
fully automatic we are not able to purchase only military

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