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#11
May 22 2016 09:10am
Quote (kayeto @ May 22 2016 02:37pm)
Psychologically, it's the lack of comfortable living that incentivizes the advances in the first place. Whenever a point of comfort is reached, it no longer cost effective to innovate and produce more infrastructure.

Nature always has a way of balancing out what we have and what we need. When European cities were crammed with people living in dirty cities, that was a perfect breeding ground for bubonic plague to come and trim our numbers. In the post-plague era, when the population was low and there were more resources to go around, the humans in that area were primed to have The Renaissance.


There's a huge difference between two particular books but the underlying message is the same.

In The Caves of Steel all remaining humans on earth live in gigantic structures because the author believed that was the only possible way we can survive.

In Foundation, the human race has already spread across the galaxy but still buries itself into huge buildings because that is all they know how to do.

There's is a lot I'm leaving out for obvious spoiler reasons but with these two, the same author left me to conclude that he had repressed communist tendencies with a not so subtle nature loving hippie mentality.

All that being said, these are still two fantastic works.

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May 22 2016 11:38am
Quote (kayeto @ May 22 2016 02:37pm)
Psychologically, it's the lack of comfortable living that incentivizes the advances in the first place. Whenever a point of comfort is reached, it no longer cost effective to innovate and produce more infrastructure.

Nature always has a way of balancing out what we have and what we need. When European cities were crammed with people living in dirty cities, that was a perfect breeding ground for bubonic plague to come and trim our numbers. In the post-plague era, when the population was low and there were more resources to go around, the humans in that area were primed to have The Renaissance.


Brave New World Written by Aldous Huxley is a book you might want to look into.

It covers just how society would work out under the perfection premise where all nature is removed from human beings.

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May 22 2016 04:31pm
BIG GREEN UGLY TEXT!
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May 22 2016 04:36pm
have your read mind parasites? nice good
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May 23 2016 07:06pm
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BIG GREEN UGLY TEXT!


Not everyone is as bold as I am.

But that aside, any of y'all have any suggestions?

Thought about starting Mein Kampf.

It was apparently written by an obscure writer who disappeared during world war two but it continues to sell very well to this day.
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May 23 2016 07:11pm
Quote (NekoSama @ May 23 2016 08:06pm)
Not everyone is as bold as I am.

But that aside, any of y'all have any suggestions?

Thought about starting Mein Kampf.

It was apparently written by an obscure writer who disappeared during world war two but it continues to sell very well to this day.


book is ridiculous, i only read it so i could argue about stuff on the internet but you could quite literally cite it for either side of any argument thats ever existed (50% cant make up mind + 50% incoherent rambling)
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May 23 2016 07:14pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYOWuL_Ottw


LOL #1
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May 24 2016 05:42pm
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book is ridiculous, i only read it so i could argue about stuff on the internet but you could quite literally cite it for either side of any argument thats ever existed (50% cant make up mind + 50% incoherent rambling)


I keep hearing that the guy was successful till he died if natural causes or something.
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#19
May 24 2016 05:46pm
survival of the fittest will reign in all societies throughout time

somtimes its survival of the privileged too B)

also a lot of authors base future events on todays culture or thier own fantastical culture, which is often mirrored off their own. it isn't like its an accurate description of the future if there ever is such a future as space travel.

But, assuming the consistency in human behavior I'm guessing they are fairly accurate guesses.
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#20
May 24 2016 05:47pm
Quote (NekoSama @ May 23 2016 12:27am)
...how in most science fiction books that deal with space travel.

There tends to be great leaps and bounds in technology that leads to the propagation of humans across time and space but those same brilliant minds that construct these futures, technology is great but not great enough to ensure the comfortable living of humans.

There is a lot I'd like to cover but I'll stagger my concerns and bring up each issue individually.

The first one being how no matter much we advance, we are doomed to live in giant housing complexes because of all the people who will be alive, leaving no space for individuals to own private residences.

Discuss.


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