it is really unclear, so just because we will forget it sometime later on, we cant perceive it? sounds kinda dumb to me, but then again if we completely forget about something later on, i guess the perception didnt matter...

The perception matters to me because I am trying to prove something else.



I can see why you say we only perceive in the present, but I don't see why my circumstances I have suggested about the future can't effect the perception of the present.

This post was edited by tinhajj on Mar 2 2011 03:04pm

LOL

Yes

It would depend on your conception of time. If time exists all at once, sure. If the present is somehow contingent on the future rather than on the past, sure. But the way I understand the common western concept of time, the future does not effect the present beyond people taking into account probability of possible consequences.

Ok thanks for the insight. I understand your viewpoint now.

depends on how far in the future you're talking about.

Well in the case that I am trying to prove I am talking about from the day your born to the day you die. That type of time span.

Maybe rephrase it. The way you state it sounds like you're saying that because we will forget what is happening now, we can't perceive it. And that argument doesn't logically follow.

You've forgotten the exact perception of probably thousands of keystrokes while typing, but you obviously perceived them at the time because you were able to find the correct keys (at least most of the time). You may have a repetitive motion sort of memory, but it is not a distinct memory of each keystroke. Or even when you did make a mistake and were aware enough of it to stop and hit the backspace to fix it, you don't remember the perception of every instance of that. But you definitely perceived them because otherwise you would not have made the correction.

kinda make sense