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Quote (M1tsos @ May 3 2016 09:28am)
ti gelas re malaka giati de tin paleuw diladi?? eipa kati to paralogo?


E tpt apla paradexesai oti eisai dogmatikos sta pistevw sou
Kai gamwstavrizeis opoion prospathei na su allaksei gnwmh
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Quote (FiLthYodoR @ May 3 2016 10:23am)
E tpt apla paradexesai oti eisai dogmatikos sta pistevw sou
Kai gamwstavrizeis opoion prospathei na su allaksei gnwmh
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auto einai to lathos ton athewn na prospathoun na allaksoun gnwmh sou allous



asxetos an o allos einai dogmatikos einai fanatismenos klp
ti zori travane oi atheoi kai prospathoun na alaksoun ta pisteuw tou allou

o kathenas kanei oti tou kavlwsh


kai emena ama kapoios mou elege ksereis file auto pou pisteueis einai gtp
tha tou elega salta gamisou

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auto einai to lathos ton athewn na prospathoun na allaksoun gnwmh sou allous



asxetos an o allos einai dogmatikos einai fanatismenos klp
ti zori travane oi atheoi kai prospathoun na alaksoun ta pisteuw tou allou

o kathenas kanei oti tou kavlwsh


kai emena ama kapoios mou elege ksereis file auto pou pisteueis einai gtp
tha tou elega salta gamisou


Diladi ama pisteves akoma ston agio vasili de tha eprepe kapoios na se ksipnisei?? Fysika tha tu eleges salta kai gamisu afu den exeis kalyterh apanthsh gia na dikaiologiseis tis aerologies pu pithanotata pisteveis

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Diladi ama pisteves akoma ston agio vasili de tha eprepe kapoios na se ksipnisei?? Fysika tha tu eleges salta kai gamisu afu den exeis kalyterh apanthsh gia na dikaiologiseis tis aerologies pu pithanotata pisteveis


''dikaiologiseis tis aerologies pu pithanotata pisteveis''

o kathenas pisteuei se oti thelei kai mporei na mi goustarei na exei kapoion na tou prizei ton poutso xwris apodhkshs gia to an auto pou pisteuei uparxei h oxi

oi pliopsifia ton athewn prospathoun na pisoun xwris epixirimata sto oti den uparxei theos etc klp

egw den lew oti uparxei apla STO poutso an kapoios einai thryskos klp

ta idia skata einai kai oi atheoi fanatismenoi pou prospathoun na metapisoun san ierokirikes kai na miosoun thryskeies les kai kseroun h exoun diavasei edw epistimones kai den kseroun

pws pane h giagiades kai lene o auta den einai pragmata tou theou etsi einai kai oi atheoi pou lene ksereis auto pou pisteueis den uparxei kai otan tous les giati sou leei hmm etsi giati an uphrxe kai meta leei oti mlkai tou erthei sto kefali

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''dikaiologiseis tis aerologies pu pithanotata pisteveis''

o kathenas pisteuei se oti thelei kai mporei na mi goustarei na exei kapoion na tou prizei ton poutso xwris apodhkshs gia to an auto pou pisteuei uparxei h oxi

oi pliopsifia ton athewn prospathoun na pisoun xwris epixirimata sto oti den uparxei theos etc klp

egw den lew oti uparxei apla STO poutso an kapoios einai thryskos klp

ta idia skata einai kai oi atheoi fanatismenoi pou prospathoun na metapisoun san ierokirikes kai na miosoun thryskeies les kai kseroun h exoun diavasei edw epistimones kai den kseroun px me tous fanatikous tupou amvrosiou

pws pane h giagiades kai lene o auta den einai pragmata tou theou etsi einai kai oi atheoi pou lene ksereis auto pou pisteueis den uparxei kai otan tous les giati sou leei hmm etsi giati an uphrxe kai meta leei oti mlkai tou erthei sto kefali


Eisai mperdemenos.
Apo pote xreiazetai na apodixtei oti den yparxei kati..
..POU DEN EXEI APODEIXTEI OTI YPARXEI.
Einai san na mu zhtas na su apodiksw oti DEN MILAW ISPANIKA
Fysika kai den mporw na to kanw.. opws den mporw na su apodiksw pws den yparxei o agios vasilhs, ta stroumfakia, oi neraides kai oi monokeroi..
H vasikh mas diafora einai pws ama egw avrio dw mprosta mu ton ihsou xristo, tha ginw thriskos pithanotata.. enw esy ama den allaksei kati tha sinexiseis na pisteveis ta idia paramythia pu grafan kati amfivolou tautotitas kai egkirotitas gidovoskoi prin xiliades xronia.
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to lew allh mia fora o kathenas pisteuei se oti thelei xwris na dinei anafora se alous

telos

tpt parapanw tpt ligotero

''Apo pote xreiazetai na apodixtei oti den yparxei kati..
..POU DEN EXEI APODEIXTEI OTI YPARXEI''


esu erxese kai les ksereis auto pou pisteueis den uparxei wraia GIATI sto ksanalew THELW EPIXEIRHMA den eirtha egw na sou pw ksereis uparxei theos




apopsh sou afou den mporeis me stoixeia na apodikseis oute to ena oute to allo end of story
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to lew allh mia fora o kathenas pisteuei se oti thelei xwris na dinei anafora se alous

telos

tpt parapanw tpt ligotero

''Apo pote xreiazetai na apodixtei oti den yparxei kati..
..POU DEN EXEI APODEIXTEI OTI YPARXEI''


esu erxese kai les ksereis auto pou pisteueis den uparxei wraia GIATI sto ksanalew THELW EPIXEIRHMA den eirtha egw na sou pw ksereis uparxei theos




apopsh sou afou den mporeis me stoixeia na apodikseis oute to ena oute to allo end of story


Den eipa PUTHENA oti auto pu pisteveis den yparxei kai mi mu vazeis logia
Auto pu eipa einai oti kaneis den mu exei apodiksei oti yparxei
Opote to na epixirimatologisw panw se kati pu den mu exeis apodiksei oti yparxei einai askopo
Einai dikia sou douleia efoson pisteveis, na psaxteis kai na mu parousiaseis apodikseis ama theleis na se parw sovara
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May 3 2016 07:11am
kai gia na teliwnw sevomai osws pisteuoun kai osoun den pisteuoun einai epilogh tous arkei na min einai fanatismenoi

esu eirthes kai eipes mesewnikes thryskeies klp kai paramithia auta kai allithies na einai gia kapoion pou pisteuei einai sa na tou les zeis sto mesaiwna eisai gtp klp

egw proswpika den pisteuw alla den to diatibanizw to krataw gia mena giati afora emena to idio kai an pisteua kapou

se auto kaneis lathos

''Einai dikia sou douleia efoson pisteveis, na psaxteis kai na mu parousiaseis apodikseis ama theleis na se parw sovara''


den exei kaneis na apodiksei tpt se kanena alla monon ston eauto tou

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kai gia na teliwnw sevomai osws pisteuoun kai osoun den pisteuoun einai epilogh tous arkei na min einai fanatismenoi

esu eirthes kai eipes mesewnikes thryskeies klp kai paramithia auta kai allithies na einai gia kapoion pou pisteuei einai sa na tou les zeis sto mesaiwna eisai gtp klp

egw proswpika den pisteuw alla den to diatibanizw to krataw gia mena giati afora emena to idio kai an pisteua kapou

se auto kaneis lathos

''Einai dikia sou douleia efoson pisteveis, na psaxteis kai na mu parousiaseis apodikseis ama theleis na se parw sovara''


den exei kaneis na apodiksei tpt se kanena alla monon ston eauto tou


Me kapoion pu pistevei oti auta einai shmadiaka kai akolou8aei to sigkekrimeno modelo h8ikhs pu didaskei o xristianismos (modelo prosarmwsmeno sthn synxronh koinwnia kai oxi thn mesaiwnikh)
Me liga logia den pernei 100% sta sovara ta didagmata ths 8rhskeias kai ta peri paradeisou/ satana/ thavmatwn/ dhmiourgia tou kosmou se 7 meres/ kai loipa PARAMY8IA den exw kanena provlima apolytws
Me osus ta pernun sovara ola auta exw thema, dld den exw thema... na tous voh8hsw prospa8w.
Ama exun apodikseis as mu tis parousiasun. Ama den exun tha me pune fanatiko, antixristiano, vlasmfimo h oti allo thes giati einai DOGMATIKOI kai exun ma8ei na aporiptoun automata otideipote den tous symferei kai
otideipote tous xalaei thn eikona pu exun sximatisei oi idioi sto mialo tous gia na niw8une kala.

Paradeigma Mitsos: "οποιος ομως προσπαθει να μου αλλαξει αποψη για τα πιστευω μου προσπαθω μεχρι ενα σημειο να συζητησω με επειχηρηματα. και αν συνεχισει και επιμενει τον γαμωσταυριζω και φευγω :P πλακα κανω ενοειτε πως κοβω την κουβεντα και αλλαζω θεμα συζητησεις..."

Me liga logia den exw provlima na syzhtaw me me kanenan (Syzhthsh = antalagh epixeirimatwn metaksi 2 h perisoterwn anthrwpwn panw se ena thema sto opoio yparxei mia kapoia DIAFWNIA) efoson symfwnei mazi mu
Dhladh o mitsos tha syzhthsei mazi sou alla mono ama auta pu les einai ta idia pu leei autos alla me allh fwnh ara poly apla to sigkekrimeno thema den to syzhtaei giati einai dogmatikos kai den allazei gnwmh oti kai na ginei :P


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Quote (FiLthYodoR @ May 3 2016 01:50pm)
Me kapoion pu pistevei oti auta einai shmadiaka kai akolou8aei to sigkekrimeno modelo h8ikhs pu didaskei o xristianismos (modelo prosarmwsmeno sthn synxronh koinwnia kai oxi thn mesaiwnikh)
Me liga logia den pernei 100% sta sovara ta didagmata ths 8rhskeias kai ta peri paradeisou/ satana/ thavmatwn/ dhmiourgia tou kosmou se 7 meres/ kai loipa PARAMY8IA den exw kanena provlima apolytws
Me osus ta pernun sovara ola auta exw thema, dld den exw thema... na tous voh8hsw prospa8w.
Ama exun apodikseis as mu tis parousiasun. Ama den exun tha me pune fanatiko, antixristiano, vlasmfimo h oti allo thes giati einai DOGMATIKOI.


tsouvaliase ta kialo les kai kapoios den mporei tautoxrona na akolouthei to modelo ths syxronhs koinwnias kai na pisteuei ston paradisw sta thaumata klp

kai prepei na einai upoxrewmenos na sta apodiksei kiolas lol les kai xestike giati thn apopsh sou h oti tha ton kaneis kai kalhtero athrwpo

plus polla pragmata pou mporei esu na kaneis sthn kathimerinotita sou h kai egw tsigaro kai alla xilia duo einai apodedigmena vlaptoun ekanes tpt giauto ?

tha stamatiseis na ta kaneis? kai apodikseis loipon na fereis pou den exeis oute o allos exei to idio kai to auto


o kathenas pisteuei loipon se oti thelei xwris na dinei logariasmo arkei na min epireazei tous allous gurw tou to an tha pisteuei se thaumata klp an esena den se epireazei den sou peftei logos oute na to xleuaseis out na ton mioseis an twra to paidi sou pethenei kai sou leei tha to swsei o agios giwrgios me thauma tote vristwn


auta tpt allo

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