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Mar 7 2010 04:40pm
Quote (skatofais @ Mar 7 2010 12:59pm)
πραγματικά έχω βαρεθεί όλους τους ανιστόριτους που επειδή διάβασαν 2-3 βιβλία του λιάκουρα και επειδή είδαν τους 300 και το μεγα αλέξανδρο στο cinema Νομίζουν ξαφνικά ότι την έχουν "ψάξει "και ότι έχουν ιδέα από ιστορία..Λυπάμαι tiki ούτε ιδέα έχεις ούτε την έχεις ψάξει...Γενικά έγραψες πάρα πολλές μαλακίες στις οποίες δεν είχα σκοπό να απαντήσω γιατί δεν είμαι κανας πορωμένος...Απλά ΕΓΡΑΨΕΣ ΜΙΑ ΤΕΡΑΣΤΙΑ ΜΠΑΡΟΥΦΑ και αμέσως μετά είπες να μη σου ανταπαντάμαι γιατί τάχα μου την έχεις ψάξει και γιατί τάχα μου εσύ έχεις διαβάσει την αντικειμενική ιστορία και όχι αυτή που μας πλασάρουν εδώ στην ελλάδα.

ti m les twra oi aigiptioi eixan metrisei tn perimetro tis ghs ekeina ta xronia kai ta sigrinan me ta simera stixia kai eixan diafora gia liga xiliometra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

πάρε και την απάντηση σου από το wikipedia ψαγμένε ιστορικέ φίλε ,προστάτη της αλήθειας και της αντικειμενικότητας

Eratosthenes of Cyrene (Greek Ἐρατοσθένης; c. 276 BC[1] – c. 195 BC[2]) was a Greek mathematician, elegiac poet, athlete, geographer, and astronomer. He was the first person to use the word "geography" and invented the discipline of geography as we understand it.[3] He made several discoveries and inventions including a system of latitude and longitude. He was the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth by using a measuring system using stades, or the length of stadiums during that time period (with remarkable accuracy), and the tilt of the earth's axis (also with remarkable accuracy); he may also have accurately calculated the distance from the earth to the sun and invented the leap day.[


Mpa file dn diavazw malkies :P
afta p c lew m ta exun pei 2 diaforetika atoma p tous ta exun pei sto panemistimio p einai mathimatikoi kai exoun akolouthisei kladous astrofisikis 5x xronon dn exoun logo na poun psemata
apla ama 8eleis paradexese tn alithia ama dn 8eleis akous afta p c lene ;)

This post was edited by tikis on Mar 7 2010 05:04pm
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#42
Mar 7 2010 06:33pm
egw sou pare8esa stoixeia..esi mu les malakies kai epimeneis
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#43
Mar 7 2010 07:15pm
Quote (tikis @ Mar 6 2010 02:39pm)
o arximidis pige stin aigipto kai ekei pera emathe k alla pragmata p dn ta i3ere kan gia mathimatika kai astrofisiki...
ti m les twra oi aigiptioi eixan metrisei tn perimetro tis ghs ekeina ta xronia kai ta sigrinan me ta simera stixia kai eixan diafora gia liga xiliometra


sry alla o eratosthenis metrise tin aktina (ti diametro vsk) me akriveia ekatostou, kati pou dn borese kaneis mexri simera na kataferei (xrisimopoiwntas ta tote ''gnwsta'' mesa)
ayto mas to eipe o kathigitis tis astronomias sto panepistimio.
o eratosthenis iksere - apo kapou kai kapws - (kai kaneis dn kserei pws) na paei se sygkekrimeno pigadi stin aleksandreia, se sigkekrimeni imerominia, sgkekrimeni wra kai lepto gia na kanei ti metrisi tou.

to sfalma pou ekane profanws ofeiletai sto oti ekane kai ligi wra na parei ti metrisi tou.

ksereis oti panw ap'ola se sevomai san atomo kai dn tha ithela na sou pw oti dn ksereis istoria
alla dn einai mono ayto. exei k alla tetoia .. ''perierga''.. pou boreis na vreis.
oxi apo vivlia styl liakopoulou aparaitita, alla apo epistimonikes ereynes.

psaksto an thes, sigoura tha vreis polla k endiaferonta :)

gia paradeigma, an psakseis gia ti xrysi tomi (ton xryso arithmo φ) kai pou / pws ton xrisimopoiousan,
tha arxiseis na amfivalleis akoma kai gia to poios/pote/pws extise akoma kai tis pyramides tis aigyptou!
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#44
Mar 7 2010 07:20pm
Quote (skatofais @ Mar 7 2010 04:12pm)
kai mias kai tin eipa sto tiki 8a ti pw kai se sena..ton belopoulo kopston ligo..leei xontres pipes


file xardavella evlepa, kai anthrwpous pou itan upeythynoi gia ereynes

parethesan stoixeia.
panepistimiakoi anthrwpoi eipan ti pisteyoun vasi twn ereynwn pou exoun kanei.

twra an k o velopoulos itan sto panel, egw dn ftaiw :)

i proedros tis elpa edine ta stoixeia, kai oxi mono ayti.
logika tha yparxei i sxetiki ekpombi sto youtube, an thes des tin kai pes mou tin apopsi sou :)
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#45
Mar 10 2010 12:50pm
Quote (Carnil @ Mar 8 2010 03:15am)
sry alla o eratosthenis metrise tin aktina (ti diametro vsk) me akriveia ekatostou, kati pou dn borese kaneis mexri simera na kataferei (xrisimopoiwntas ta tote ''gnwsta'' mesa)
ayto mas to eipe o kathigitis tis astronomias sto panepistimio.
o eratosthenis iksere - apo kapou kai kapws - (kai kaneis dn kserei pws) na paei se sygkekrimeno pigadi stin aleksandreia, se sigkekrimeni imerominia, sgkekrimeni wra kai lepto gia na kanei ti metrisi tou.


to sfalma toy itan giro sto 10 % gia diaforous logous(i isws 1 % an laboume to mikos tou stadiou me tin aigiptiaki "isotimia"..diabase to ar8ro tou wiki ta leei poli orea

oso afora to osmio ktlp to parami8i exei ksekinisei apo ton belopoulo 15 + xronia prin..den apokliw tin iparksi osmiou,ouraniou xrisou petreleou ktlp stin elada..ALA mexri stigmis den exw dei kapoion na para8etei sobara STOIXEIA ala mono aerologies..kai sobara stoixeia otan leme den enooume tis pipes pou mas eipe kapoios ka8igitis astrofisikis sto panepistimio se emas i stous filous mas alla kapia grapti ereuna eite panepistimiou eite opiadipote sobarou dimosiou , idiwtikou forea..gia tous sobarous kalesmenous tou xardabela 8a to afisw asxoliasto,oses fores ton eida eixe tous klasikous pseutoepistimones,mporei na kanw kai la80s :)

an mporeis na mu breis tin ekpompi pragmatika 8a me endiafere na ti dw

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#46
Mar 10 2010 12:54pm
kai kati teleuteo..akoma kai an iparxei xrisos,ouranio i otidipote akoma kai se treles posotites de simenei kati auto..an to xrisafi exei 100 euro to kilo ,ala i eksoriksi tou me ta diafora eksoda(egkatastaseis,prosopiko,sintirisi sourta ferta) sou kostizei 110 ,apla ton bgazeis kai to paizeis
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#47
Mar 10 2010 04:01pm
sry alla tha mou eptrepseis na empisteyomai perissotero ton kathigiti mou para tin wiki gia 2 logous:

1) sti wiki borei na grapsei kai o kathe pikramenos an thelei.
2) sto panepistimio otan anaferthike to sxetiko zitima, o kathigitis mas parethese kai sxetiko xeirgrafo, to opoio kai eida fysika.

dn prokeitai na prospathisw na se peisw file mou, gia tpt.

dikaiwma tou kathenos einai na pisteyei oti thelei, analoga me to nou pou diathetei.
sto finale, borw px na sou anaptyksw mia thewria vasizmeni kapou (pou egw dexomai tin pigi) , kai apo tin alli meria esi boreis na mou anaptykseis tin anthitheti thewria, vasismeni kapou episis,pou esi thewreis zwsti pigi kai paei legontas.

egw kserw mono ayto: oles oi megales dynates xwres, ginan dynates apo to xrysafi kai to petrelaio (ta orykta petrwnamta tou ypedafous tous)
o bush dn ekane tous polemous sto irak gia ta petrelaia allwste? (kserw dn einai tis idias posotitas, omws dn einai kai tis analogis katanalwsis.)

oi epistimones kalesmenoi tis ekpompis milousan panta me stoixeia sta xeria tous.... syggnwmi alla dn ta thymamai ap'eksw... 1 mualo exw, kai to xrisimopoiw twra gia na teleiwsw ti sxoli mou, oxi gia na thymamai ta stoixeia pou parathetei kapoios :)
kai ta stoixeia tous milousan gia petrelaio / xryso / ouranio / spanies petres.
twra an kapoios allos elege aerologies gi' ayta prin apo 15 xronia, ti na pw.
ta stoixeia twn ereynwn itan ofthalmofani toulaxiston kata ti diarkeia tis ekpompis.


Ws ellinas pou eimai tha sou pw 1 teleytaio pragma:
pote mou dn fovithika kanenan. oute amerikano, oute roso, oute germano oute agglo klp.
fovithika mono ton ''kako'' ellina.

tha psaksw na vrw sto youtube tin ekpompi na tin postarw.an thes na krineis ek tou asfalous, des tin kai pare thesi. na ksereis omws oti einai nomizw i triti synexomeni evdomada pou kanei o xardavellas tin idia ekpompi, kai ayto dn einai tyxaio :)
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#48
Mar 10 2010 04:22pm
Quote (skatofais @ Mar 10 2010 08:54pm)
kai kati teleuteo..akoma kai an iparxei xrisos,ouranio i otidipote akoma kai se treles posotites de simenei kati auto..an to xrisafi exei 100 euro to kilo ,ala i eksoriksi tou me ta diafora eksoda(egkatastaseis,prosopiko,sintirisi sourta ferta) sou kostizei 110 ,apla ton bgazeis kai to paizeis


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#49
Mar 10 2010 05:00pm
gia na sas pliroforisw ligo, to xryso dn exei a3ia pleon kai toulaxiston stin ameriki dn einai isotimo me to dollario, twra pia dn boreis na agoraseis dollaria me xryso ektos an to pouliseis san eidos poluteleias gia kosmimata kai ta loipa

an pali dn pisteuete arkei na deite to zeitgheist, apla lita kai aperita ekei mesa e3hgei ti ekanan oi amerikanoi
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#50
Mar 10 2010 05:32pm
Quote (Carnil @ Mar 11 2010 12:01am)
sry alla tha mou eptrepseis na empisteyomai perissotero ton kathigiti mou para tin wiki gia 2 logous:

1) sti wiki borei na grapsei kai o kathe pikramenos an thelei.
2) sto panepistimio otan anaferthike to sxetiko zitima, o kathigitis mas parethese kai sxetiko xeirgrafo, to opoio kai eida fysika.



1)sto wiki ontws mporei na grapsei o ka8enas oti 8elei ALLA ipoxreoute na balei piges gia na stiriksei auta pou exei grapsei aliws to poli se mia ora
2)auto me to panepistimio sto pa giati distixws sta elinika panepistimia iparxun poloi malakes pou lene oti na nai.Foititis egw,foititis eimai sigouros oti kai oi dio mas exoume dei pollous blamenous ^_^
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