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Nov 18 2010 05:15pm
well yeah that's true and that's why i dont like it anymore. it used to take some effort to have a decent prof for casting so that not everyone played as a caster in catas (full caster catas were rare and really awesome) now its different. i've hit 5 wind prof in 2 climbs 1-71 solo as a warlock last season so it wasnt that difficult but to splash more often you needed like 10-12+ .

talking about the melee items i gotta say that i liked the new str/dex ratio system in the beginning but then i realized that some weapons are overpowered (daggers).. i mean have you ever seen anyone with over 1k+ average dmg as a melee before the new patch? i've seen only few guys and they were using swords like 60s with his 244ee. now you can hit easily 800+ wit 130ee mq dagger which is too damn lame..
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Nov 18 2010 05:58pm
Quote (cagiva @ Nov 18 2010 05:15pm)
well yeah that's true and that's why i dont like it anymore. it used to take some effort to have a decent prof for casting so that not everyone played as a caster in catas (full caster catas were rare and really awesome) now its different. i've hit 5 wind prof in 2 climbs 1-71 solo as a warlock last season so it wasnt that difficult but to splash more often you needed like 10-12+ .

talking about the melee items i gotta say that i liked the new str/dex ratio system in the beginning but then i realized that some weapons are overpowered (daggers).. i mean have you ever seen anyone with over 1k+ average dmg as a melee before the new patch? i've seen only few guys and they were using swords like 60s with his 244ee. now you can hit easily 800+ wit 130ee mq dagger which is too damn lame..


i feel like the ratios would work better if they were applied to the weapons in a more balanced manner. logically, a dagger is all about dexterity and a club is all about strength, but when u compare the usage level of the weapons, it doesn't make sense. i think the ratios should be adjusted to favor weapons that aren't used as much. for example, daggers, swords, and axes were very common, so they should have lower ratios (closer to the 50/50 point). clubs (a little less widespread since they can't be used at the higher classes) should be around the 75/25 range, and heavy weapons can be towards an 80 or 90 point ratio. i think this would balance the weapons a little bit and give us an incentive to use the heavier weapons; u can use the common stuff and have the lower ratio, or use less common stuff and have the higher ratios. on the other hand, the overpowered daggers are the only way to keep up with the big bump to casting...

anyway, i'm sure it wouldn't be perfect and would need tweaking, but it's just my idea
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Nov 18 2010 06:37pm
Quote (mkay0013 @ Nov 18 2010 04:54pm)
while i liked how the old profs for casting worked, the new way will actually help me since i've never really built a caster before... i'm just gonna buy the highest ee i can find at each lvl, and not worry about charm type

if i spend months getting to prof lvl 5, i only get 5 extra ee? not worth it at all, i might as well buy the best thing i can find for the least amount of fg

at least for melee i have to pick certain weps to use with certain classes, but charm type doesn't really matter for casting


prof has alot more effect than you're giving it credit for. say you need a lvl 25 charm with 120ee, but you can only afford a 105ee lvl 25 charm. if you have lvl 15 in that prof, you'll get 120ee charm for much much less. or, if you get the 120ee charm, it stacks your prof on top of the max ee capable for dropping on that charm, it caps at 20% above teir's highest ee, i think.
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Nov 18 2010 11:14pm
Quote (J03SL4YS @ Nov 18 2010 06:37pm)
prof has alot more effect than you're giving it credit for.  say you need a lvl 25 charm with 120ee, but you can only afford a 105ee lvl 25 charm. if you have lvl 15 in that prof, you'll get 120ee charm for much much less. or, if you get the 120ee charm, it stacks your prof on top of the max ee capable for dropping on that charm, it caps at 20% above teir's highest ee, i think.


chances are, if i have 20 prof in anything, i've been playing LS long enough that i can afford pretty good items. besides, the diminishing returns in item strength vs item cost are unbelievable, i'd gladly settle for an item that's 10% lower ee for 2/3 the cost
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Nov 19 2010 02:12am
After reading all this, all I can see is LS is boring.
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Nov 19 2010 12:45pm
Does anybody know kelson?

I am gonna kick him .. and the one up too ... they think it's a fucking AFK guild.
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Nov 19 2010 01:16pm
no don't kick them. true i have never seen them but still
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Nov 19 2010 01:34pm
Quote (cagiva @ 19 Nov 2010 20:16)
no don't kick them. true i have never seen them but still


vouch ^^

but dont understand why they picked us when they never write or do smth else with us ^^

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iso mkay to get a personal rank ^^ since he got 14gps ^^ ryan use to give prank for 10gp ^^

so if u want a personal rank let me know sir ^^

goes for evry one else with 10+ gps
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Nov 19 2010 01:56pm
Quote (Bmy1 @ Nov 19 2010 07:34pm)
vouch ^^

but dont understand why they picked us when they never write or do smth else with us ^^

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iso mkay to get a personal rank ^^ since he got 14gps ^^ ryan use to give prank for 10gp ^^

so if u want a personal rank let me know sir ^^

goes for evry one else with 10+ gps


Then whats the point to leave them.
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Nov 19 2010 02:27pm
+1 for LFW since looong time B)
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