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Counting (I am sober, so in most cases I will fail)

Club = 485 + 3,000 (Rank 2)
Longsword = 2,811 + 3,000 (Rank 2)
Warhammer = 1,778 + 1,000 (Rank 1)
Battleaxe = 59 + 21,000 (Rank 7)
Spear = 4,980 + 15,000 (Rank 6)
Polearm = 210 + 1,000 (Rank 1)
Wild Heal = 1,116 + 1,000 (Rank 1)
Heal = 1,099 + 15,000 (Rank 6)
Focus = 288 + 6,000 (Rank 3)

78,826 Total Prof Points
35,400 Total Monster Kills
7 Total Master Quests. (I was lucky to Fail all 7 attempts and stayed a Guardian)
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I was going to try and set up a competition based on three(3) areas.
#1 Lowest Monster Kills
#2 Highest Total Prof Point Gain
#3 Have to complete 7 Master Quests.

This eliminates Group play and only allows solo playing. This helps new players with crap / mediocre gear ... SO I THOUGHT.

Since I know the tricks to gaining profs efficiently, I realized how people could cheat.

#1 buy/stock up on +Well maps
#2 have guild members hold onto a Well for that person to jump in and use to gain prof points then switch out.
#3 use crap gear when killing Well monster, once you get maximum Prof points, switch to faster killing gear and kill it off.
#4 Combination of #2 to level up character and +jub gear to level up while sleeping could in effect get the character to MQ level faster and join a group within the last 2 levels ... remembering that even in a group of 5, some monster waves only have 1, 2 or 3 appear. Hmm... I have to think on this one more. Maybe they use +EXP gain items and glyphs.

#5 (edit) ... oh forgot about healing prof cheat.

Well... that was my idea, but it can be abused drastically, back to the drawing board.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 15 2023 03:49pm

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#5267

Nov 15 2023 07:50pm

Okay... now I have to crunch some numbers again, but this time I am intoxicated and the numbers are phenominal.

Kills: 49,737,746 @ 1.54 pm my timezone NZT. Following is a + Guide

197,516 = Weapon Prof Ranking Point Total
194,337 = Casting Charm Prof Ranking Point Total
8,629 = Healing Charm Prof Ranking Point Total

400,482 Total Accumulated Prof points collected after;
49,737,746 Monsters Kills.
0.0080518727165481 The Calculator dividing Prof point gain vs Monster kills.

Yup, kinda fucking sucks after all that work and time spent.

Oh... this is based off of NR1's main character with MASSIVE high ranks. (melee / cast & heal... not including skills)

EDIT: I think I made a mistake with my calculations... I have a nagging feeling.

EDIT2: Yup, I think I fucked up major in my calculations... the numbers are off dramatically.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 15 2023 08:11pm

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#5268

Nov 15 2023 08:24pm

I think I know where I fucked up... I took the Rank total (say Rank 10) and only added 1,000 prof points. So, I did NOT calculate the prof points needed from rank 1 to rank 10 separately.

0-1000 = Rank 1 (obtained)
0-2000 = Rank 2 (obtained)
0-3000 = Rank 3 (obtained)
... So, it actually took 6,000 prof points to reach Rank 3.

Continuation to reach Rank 4;

0-4,000 = Rank 4.

Okay... I am getting lost here and over thinking it.

or...

0-1000 to Rank 1
0-2000 to rank 2 + 1000
0-3000 to rank 3 + 1000
0-4000 to rank 4 + 1000

damn ... I was thinking to rank 4 you needed like another 4,000 + 4,000 and the other +1,000 which is 9,000 prof points.

Damn mathematics. :rofl:

yup drunk.

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#5269

Nov 15 2023 10:02pm

Thanks to BWComformity and his PM to me, I know where I fucked up in both my character and NR1's prof gain per monster kill.

This is the Sample sent to me:

So lvl 3 0% is 6000 prof.
lvl 4 0% is 10,000 prof
lvl 5 0% is 15,000 prof
lvl 6 0% is 21,000 prof
lvl 7 0% is 28,000 prof

etc?

EDIT: Update PM by BWComformity

Quote (BWConformity @ 16 Nov 2023 17:02)

Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 15 2023 05:51pm)

Quote (BWConformity @ 16 Nov 2023 16:41)

Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 15 2023 04:48pm)

Hi bud, I think I am simplifying too much in my calculations on prof gain (yup, this subject again). Anyway, I have a nagging feeling I stuffed up in my calculations.

I originally took a Rank 10 as being 11,000 prof points and adding the current prof points gained... for example:

Sword 3,748 prof points towards Rank 10 (11,000 prof points already gained), thus
= 14,748 total prof points.

This is how I have been calculating the end numbers, however, I think I am totally wrong. It is bugging me, I sort of know I am wrong... so my long version is:

0-1,000 prof points = Rank 1
0-2,000 prof points = Rank 2
... 3,000 prof point total to reach Rank 2 (added 1,000 + 2,000 = 3,000)

Okay... now to reach Rank 3, you have to gain 4,000 prof points. This is the standard per Rank by adding another 1,000.

So... when overthinking this, to reach Rank 4, you have to accumulate another 3,000 + 1,000 on top of the previous 3,000 prof gained?

Don't know how to put it.

Say Rank 5, you have already collected 6,000 prof points, and to get Rank 6, your have to collect another 7,000 prof points, which means you collected 13,000 prof points? for just 1 Rank?

Again, I am lost. Thanks for any assistance and advice.

lvl 0 to 1 is 1000
Lvl 1 to 2 is 2000
lvl 2 to 3 is 3000

etc...

So lvl 3 0% is 6000 prof.
lvl 4 0% is 10,000 prof
lvl 5 0% is 15,000 prof
lvl 6 0% is 21,000 prof
lvl 7 0% is 28,000 prof

etc?

If you want to simplify this series into a formula I'm sure it'll be easy but I am also too tired rn to do it for ya :P
Maybe later

Thanks for the quick reply and hope you get some rest. I have a basic understanding or what you sent me.

To get to Rank 3 after Rank 1 & 2 ... the total prof point is 6,000 etc.

Thought about it:

(1000 prof)[(rank 1 + rank n)/2]n

Where n is 0% into the prof rank you want to find total prof for

For example:

Rank 7 would be:
1000[(1+7)/2]*7 = 28,000 just as added out above.
Lmk if you find any errors with that formula but I tested it on a few and seems like it will always work :)

Hmm, I will put this in Kirby chat, since I already posted your previous findings. :lol:

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 15 2023 10:04pm

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#5270

Nov 15 2023 10:07pm

Feel free to just ^ me here Rex :lol:

me some Kirby chat :hug:

This post was edited by BWConformity on Nov 15 2023 10:07pm

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