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Jul 28 2023 06:55am

Damn ... never realized how important Dexterity Robes (Padded mostly) are more valuable based on "Unlocked" character classes.

Ignoring Guardian, +Dex robes are fundamentally the best to use up until either Warlock or Alchemist where they prefer +Int Robes for casting.

Fighter: Axe with base stats of 90 (Dex works, as well as Spear)
Barbarian: Axe with base stats of 85 (Dex works with Battleaxe)
Rogue: Axe with base stats of 90, whereas the base 60 Dex aids "Dagger, Staff & Spear.
Mage: 50 base dexterity for Dagger and Staff (if Melee)

Samurai: 50 base dexterity for Dagger only
Paladin: Axe with base stats of 85 (Dex works with Battleaxe and Polearm)
Monk: 65 base dexterity for all weapons: Dagger / Staff and Spear
Ninja: 70 base dexterity for Dagger and Spear

Warlock: 45 base dexterity for staff... thus using +Int for casting.

Headhunter: 75 base dexterity for Axe and Battleaxe (including 55 Base Strength)

Alchemist: No weapon use, thus Str / Dex is excluded.

They all use Robes... thus Dexterity is Prime Forum gold.

Hmm... I think I will have to pay less for +Strength armor and charms... :rofl:

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#5192

Jul 28 2023 07:29am

Damn... I was supposed to paste a prntscrn of a level 1 and 2 catacomb (5x5) dimension with 51x54 pixel numbers (well... still in the 5x numbers). But... I got distracted and posted that wall of text above... oh well... just finishing up the last of 24 RTDs (Bourbon and cola).

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#5193

Jul 28 2023 08:49am

64x55 px = 6x5 lvl 3 catacomb dimension completed at level 3 (no spins and open area)

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#5194

Jul 28 2023 12:50pm

Quote (izParagonzi @ Jul 28 2023 08:55am)

you didnt know that? str gear and charms have always been way cheaper than dex gear. especially on hc. hell someone gifted me a 50 str charm lol.
and on top of that good dex robes and hh usable dex charms are hard to come by so makes them an even juicer sell.

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#5195

Jul 28 2023 04:38pm

Quote (Tr3vor @ 29 Jul 2023 06:50)

I worded it wrong I suppose, I never realized how unbalanced the game is. Even the base Dexterity of most classes are high compared to Strength (Barb / Guardian). Guess I was too busy with other things.

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Jul 28 2023 11:27pm

Continued:
Catacomb Dimension(s) are based on character level when "Creating/Entering" from the beginning. All information recorded from Solo exploring ONLY. At a later date, I will hopefully compare the Map Dimension(s). I believe someone has this information.

Code

Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)
??wX?? level 19
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
??wX?? level 22
15wX11h level 23 (29+)
??wX?? level 24
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??
??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
??wX?? level 29
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38
24wX15h level 39 (TD'd ?)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+)
??wX?? level 41
??wX?? level 42
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
??wX?? level 44
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)

Hmm started catacomb @ level 1.90 and completed it by level 6 and the Dimension is 6 width by 6 height:
https://prnt.sc/tEK67T-jV1e-

I included the chat logs to verify levels gained and dimensions.

Completed by level 8.45 : 7 width by 6 height dimensions. Seems to be the same.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jul 28 2023 11:57pm

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#5197

Jul 29 2023 06:21pm

Quote (izParagonzi @ 29 Jul 2023 17:27)

Hmm started catacomb @ level 1.90 and completed it by level 6 and the Dimension is 6 width by 6 height:
https://prnt.sc/tEK67T-jV1e-

I included the chat logs to verify levels gained and dimensions.

Oh... I was using 1 item with +2 Jubilance during that run, I didn't go to town to shrine or sit there either.

Might test this out again... I may also have to stop using +Jub gear, mind you... that was with a Paladin... wonder if I got more levels being a Barbarian and using the Axe.

EDIT: actually I was wanting to bitch about only finding 0-1 Well in a couple of my runs instead of the +3 Well event. :rofl:

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jul 29 2023 06:23pm

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Jul 29 2023 09:31pm

Found something strange while welling this event:

Rank 12 Longsword, Character Level 13 using a Tier IV Longsword while welling Tier III did not gain any prof points. However, the same character (Paladin) used a Tier IV Polearm @ Rank 2 welling Tier III items gained prof points, and quite a lot.

I am level 13 (above Rank 12) using the same Tier IV (level 5) weapon vs a Well monster (Tier III) spawn ... thus I should have gained some prof points to Longsword.

EDIT: I just did a test in the same well using the Tier IV Polearm (Rank 2) vs using the Tier IV Longsword (Rank 12) at level 13 Character and using Tier III White items in the same Well.

Outcome:

Polearm = 9 prof point gain
Longsword = 0 prof point gain

Not a good sign.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jul 29 2023 09:37pm

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#5199

Aug 1 2023 03:48am

Not sure of the level I started this catacomb... got minimum of 7 levels (now 71 on Paladin) and also welled around 30 items... dimension(s) is around 32 width by 20 height:

https://prnt.sc/VJZOO-O2F1Zc

Also completed Treasure Pest ... but deleted the previous chat logs... I should complete by MQ if not higher level (75+)

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#5200

Aug 9 2023 05:36am

Just slashing n w8ing

Hope all is well with Kirby members.

oh... did some catacomb dimensions earlier... I don't think the level 46 starting catacomb dimensions is correct, but the 36-46 is correct (basically too much +Rooms to make it easier and little spin/flashes).

14 height x 22 width starting catacomb at level 36 and completing it at level 46 (not this was a +Room event and easy to complete).

Now I started the next catacomb at around 46 and completed by 61 and dimensions are 17 height and 26 width, however, this is NOT 100% accurate... I think I fell in a TD around 46-47, so the dimension and completing catacomb may differ.

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