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Guys mind giving me a little help/input here?

I'm trying to decide how to make my hybrid guardian.
Im using EE clubs, dex charms, heal charm in ac ofc.
But my armor is where I need help. Im debating back and forth between HM and EE on my armor, and even stats at that.

My main thought is EE vs HM.
For soloing purposes EE would be a better choice right?
My attempted math:
At 55 with ~150ee charm, a 60HM armor would make it do ~2x heals right?
Well wouldn't a 100EE armor just make you take half as much damage? If 100ee wasnt better, would a 200ee armor be better?

Any thoughts? O.o
Would stats just be best??
HMMMM
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Quote (DarkxxWingxxDuck @ Feb 21 2010 06:11am)
Guys mind giving me a little help/input here?

I'm trying to decide how to make my hybrid guardian.
Im using EE clubs, dex charms, heal charm in ac ofc.
But my armor is where I need help. Im debating back and forth between HM and EE on my armor, and even stats at that.

My main thought is EE vs HM.
For soloing purposes EE would be a better choice right?
My attempted math:
At 55 with ~150ee charm, a 60HM armor would make it do ~2x heals right?
Well wouldn't a 100EE armor just make you take half as much damage? If 100ee wasnt better, would a 200ee armor be better?

Any thoughts? O.o
Would stats just be best??
HMMMM


Many hybrids stat intel to 70-75 then put the rest into dex/str

if ur a pally/rogue hybrid it wouldn't be a bad idea for soloing purposes to use a ee armor/hm charm imo but ur not going to hit as hard as if u have a stat armor obviously....if ur doing a cata it would prolly be better w/ stat armor/hm charm

ur not going to have a 2k avg heal n it would have to be a wild heal to even hit 2k heals with a 150ee charm but ur heals will be sufficient

gm laby :hello:
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Quote (bobbarkersworld @ Feb 21 2010 07:55am)
Many hybrids stat intel to 70-75 then put the rest into dex/str

if ur a pally/rogue hybrid it wouldn't be a bad idea for soloing purposes to use a ee armor/hm charm imo but ur not going to hit as hard as if u have a stat armor obviously....if ur doing a cata it would prolly be better w/ stat armor/hm charm

ur not going to have a 2k avg heal n it would have to be a wild heal to even hit 2k heals with a 150ee charm but ur heals will be sufficient

gm laby :hello:


Not 2k, 2x
Im using dex charms not HM charms.
So more a question of to use HM or to not use HM
I would be going on a guardian, and prolly going like 65 int just cuz of the large base

Quote (theduckdodgers @ Feb 21 2010 08:05am)
imo ee armors are better for soloing..so id try n get ee stat or ee hm witch ever you can get
with hm you can heal better so you can use less heals witch will help chains get a lil longer and ee will also do this

so imo ee/hm plate


See I guess my thinking is like this also. Like you said EE is better for soloing. So really unless you can find a 200ee+ armor that also has HM I madaswell use my 220ee armor. Like there is no reason to use a 100ee 20hm or something think 120ee would be better then 20hm anyway... if ya followed me there =P

This post was edited by DarkxxWingxxDuck on Feb 21 2010 08:19am
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Not 2k, 2x
Im using dex charms not HM charms.
So more a question of to use HM or to not use HM
I would be going on a guardian, and prolly going like 65 int just cuz of the large base


imo ee armors are better for soloing..so id try n get ee stat or ee hm witch ever you can get
with hm you can heal better so you can use less heals witch will help chains get a lil longer and ee will also do this

so imo ee/hm plate
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Feb 21 2010 08:16am
i think sum hm is pretty vital to having a hybrid
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Quote (DarkxxWingxxDuck @ Feb 21 2010 07:11am)
Guys mind giving me a little help/input here?

I'm trying to decide how to make my hybrid guardian.
Im using EE clubs, dex charms, heal charm in ac ofc.
But my armor is where I need help. Im debating back and forth between HM and EE on my armor, and even stats at that.

My main thought is EE vs HM.
For soloing purposes EE would be a better choice right?
My attempted math:
At 55 with ~150ee charm, a 60HM armor would make it do ~2x heals right?
Well wouldn't a 100EE armor just make you take half as much damage? If 100ee wasnt better, would a 200ee armor be better?

Any thoughts? O.o
Would stats just be best??
HMMMM


killing speed is really important as well. At levels 1-20, 25 stats would be key to soloing fast and efficiently in particular strength.
You'll absolutely hate your hybrid esp if you use a lower ee weapon if it takes 10 minutes or so to solo at 40+ even 35+. At level 35,40+, EE n
eeds to be used preferably in combination with stats but ofc these dual statfunctions are difficult to find.

a 100ee armor doesn't make you take half as much damage. they hit quite hard at the mid-high levels (35ish)

^^reason you can't say this is because each monster spawned is different, some hit harder than others.
you should use the weaker monsters in combination with an ee/str plate as an opportunity to heal.

All in all, ill need to see an exact setup or you need to tell me an exact setup to help you directly.

as for the math, it makes sense hypothetically, but you can't use it as an estimating factor
because the averages of attack numbers will be too erratic, on top of the fact that itd be difficult
to test chains, and even take a long term average, because you wouldn't be able to last
long enough to get accurate numbers.

Quote (darkslasher @ Feb 21 2010 12:29pm)
I would have to disagree here on the strength at start :)

You always want to add to int until you hit what you want. Then start adding to str.

This allows for a larger mana pool.

You should have no problem soloing 1-20 going pure int and using stat armor/charm.

I've been doing that on my pala and monk. With a good enough ee, 1-20 is no prob.


yep he's right about this. essentially statting intel will help you prep for the later levels.

but theres also a lot of other factors that take place including the ee weapon you choose to use.



This post was edited by Legolas_RH on Feb 21 2010 11:34am
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