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Nov 30 2009 01:12am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 30 2009 07:31pm)
He means that you have a level 45 club that has no properties... you can get that item welled
by Jesses brother, NeVv or even myself...

Once it is welled... it might be better than the one on MP


by white i pretty much meant a no-ee sword. so it can't be welled :P



as for the int vs hm thing, you cna investigate all you want but that forumla really works, and it'll save you plenty of time. i believe for best healing you want ~ the same amount of int as hm.
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Quote (goolaush @ Nov 30 2009 06:49pm)
sweet thanks..... 10 vita charms worth anything? lvl 5 req


vita kinda sucks on items unless accompanied with other Stats/EE

Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Nov 30 2009 06:50pm)
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Morning all


Morning to ya... evening here
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Woot... lvl55 Sword (white) side drop... hopefully I can well that effectively
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Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 30 2009 07:12pm)
by white i pretty much meant a no-ee sword. so it can't be welled :P

as for the int vs hm thing, you cna investigate all you want but that forumla really works, and it'll save you plenty of time. i believe for best healing you want ~ the same amount of int as hm.


That only works based on the higher number... not on the lower numbers.

example given: 31 Int vs 29 HM.... if it was more like 45 Int vs 43 HM... then it does make a difference...
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Quote (NevV @ Nov 30 2009 07:17pm)
Magical brocade padded robe
Level Req: 10
Defense: 0 to 21

+76% Enhanced Effect


:cry:


Man... I want the mod when I well the lvl55 Sword... it will be higher than my 55 MQ (60% EE)
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:rofl: that was a pathetic attempt @ welling that sword...

Monster had 60% life left
I have 20% life left
I also only had 800 Mana left out of 7.5k mana...

Pathetic

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 30 2009 01:28am
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Magical brocade padded robe
Level Req: 10
Defense: 0 to 21

+76% Enhanced Effect


:cry:
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Nov 30 2009 01:34am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 30 2009 08:14pm)
That only works based on the higher number... not on the lower numbers.

example given: 31 Int vs 29 HM.... if it was more like 45 Int vs 43 HM... then it does make a difference...


really? what exactly doesn't work with it?
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Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 30 2009 07:34pm)
really? what exactly doesn't work with it?


Make it simple:

20 Int = approximately 19% HM (do not even go further into the maths... this is just basic maths)
Hence at lower levels... there is not much difference... but because of higher numbers... the
Int reduces in power compared to the solid HM %

(.95 + int/100) = Int
(1 + HM/100) = HM

forget the divided by 100... as both are divided equally
20 int = 1.9%
20 hm = 2.00%

Woot... because of the round down scenario... it makes a difference

21 int = 2.95
20 hm = 2.00

Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 30 2009 07:45pm)
did you read what i posted? that formula shows that 20int =/= 19hm. it may do that at some stage, but the actual ratio is constantly changing which the varying amounts.

(.95 + int/100)(1 + (EE+prof)/100)(1 + HM/100)

chuck in the values for the different setups, and whatever has a higher number output will be the most effective setup :)


:rofl: it is basic maths...
the argument is based on HARD int vs hm... as stated... at higher #s you will see the difference

20 int = 1.9
40 int = 3.8
60 int = 5.7

20 hm = 2.0
40 int = 4.0
60 int = 6.0

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Well... this item could of at least had like 65% + EE

Rare earth VII
Level Req: 20
Spell Damage: 82 to 145
Mana Cost: 65
+25 Intelligence
+2% Damage Return

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 30 2009 01:51am
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 30 2009 08:38pm)
Make it simple:

20 Int = approximately 19% HM (do not even go further into the maths... this is just basic maths)
Hence at lower levels... there is not much difference... but because of higher numbers... the
Int reduces in power compared to the solid HM %
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Well... this item could of at least had like 65% + EE

Rare earth VII
Level Req: 20
Spell Damage: 82 to 145
Mana Cost: 65
+25 Intelligence
+2% Damage Return


did you read what i posted? that formula shows that 20int =/= 19hm. it may do that at some stage, but the actual ratio is constantly changing which the varying amounts.

(.95 + int/100)(1 + (EE+prof)/100)(1 + HM/100)

chuck in the values for the different setups, and whatever has a higher number output will be the most effective setup :)
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Nov 30 2009 01:47am
woot just got my lvl 1 sword prof on my lvl 35 fighter :-)
this means what? lol
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Quote (goolaush @ Nov 30 2009 08:47pm)
woot just got my lvl 1 sword prof on my lvl 35 fighter :-)
this means what? lol


means you get +1% ee when you're using swords :P
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sweet cant wait to get another lol i just bought new sword and armor and charms for fighter he is my favorite guy i think
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night guildies just saw it was 3am lolz off i go gl
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