Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 30 2009 12:25am)

Hi all...

Okay... I decided to test these two (2) charms on Main... just to see if there is a real
difference with Healing... between HM and INT

Mystical focused heal VIII
Level Req: 25
Heals: 40 to 48
Mana Cost: 75
+7% Block
+29% Heal Mastery
+2 Jubilance

Rare lightning IX
Level Req: 30
Spell Damage: 15 to 158
Mana Cost: 85
+31 Intelligence
+331 Max Mana

The HM was actually the worse out of the 2...
Yet so many people say that HM is better than INT for healing?

I may need to do some more investigating...

Quote (Angler @ Nov 30 2009 05:43pm)

Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 30 2009 06:25pm)

Hi all...

Okay... I decided to test these two (2) charms on Main... just to see if there is a real
difference with Healing... between HM and INT

Mystical focused heal VIII
Level Req: 25
Heals: 40 to 48
Mana Cost: 75
+7% Block
+29% Heal Mastery
+2 Jubilance

Rare lightning IX
Level Req: 30
Spell Damage: 15 to 158
Mana Cost: 85
+31 Intelligence
+331 Max Mana

The HM was actually the worse out of the 2...
Yet so many people say that HM is better than INT for healing?

I may need to do some more investigating...

Quote (J_B @ Apr 19 2009 06:15pm)

• 3. Str vs EE comparison for damage

This holds for int and vita as well.
Giving a xx EE = yy str is always useless. Those values are not constant, for example with 105str and 0EE 1EE = 2str but with 5str and 100EE 1str = 2EE. So comparisons made along those lines are useless and I really don’t want to see any discussion about those things.
So what can we do? Well we can take two different setups and see which one does more damage in a quantitative way.  Take the following equation and run it for both setups, then whichever yields a bigger number is the more powerful one.
(.95 + str/100)(1 + (EE+prof)/100)
If the tier is different in the cases you want to compare, then you simply multiply the numbers you obtain by their respective tiers.

• 4. HM vs int comparison

Do the same as in 3. But using this formula
(.95 + int/100)(1 + (EE+prof)/100)(1 + HM/100)
In most cases, HM is going to be more effective. People have reported that this formula is inaccurate and the resulting heal is actually higher than what this predicts. I have no reason to believe them however and so this formula works just fine.
For computing the heal in accessory slot simply multiply by .75
As a rule if you are maze catacombing you will heal more for your mana if you put it in the accessory slot if your main charm has even just 1int or 1HM. The issue however becomes this: Do you need to heal a lot at a time or can your group afford you being a little bit slower but more efficient. In most cases efficiency will be better since healers are usually the limiting factor in a group.

Quote (diablostoner @ Nov 30 2009 05:28pm)

i find that hard to believe considering the amount of climbs i have done with both just INT gear and just HM gear with the same heals and HM is > INT by far from what ive seen and done


i think you need to do some more testing imo

at 55+
with hm gear i can do 900 heals+ as max
with int its more like around 700 -800 max

mind you i have a 120 hm setup last time i checked
and my int setup aint that high lol

but even at lower levels i noticed a differnce of the true power of my heals between the two

Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 30 2009 05:38pm)

ohaider

all the investigating has already been done for you.

Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 29 2009 08:49pm)

44ee level 45 club on market: 20fg
20str charm on market - 2fg

buy them

edit: or maybe dont worry about the club so much since you already have a white level 45.

Quote (goolaush @ Nov 30 2009 06:17pm)

what do you mean i have a white lvl 45?


hi all on to slash let me know :-)

Quote (goolaush @ Nov 30 2009 07:34pm)

oic only problem is i dont got 100 fg for transfer slots or whatever.
also i just found a magical ice iv lvl 5 req with 18 str but thats all.... is it worth anything?

Quote (goolaush @ 30 Nov 2009 08:49)

sweet thanks..... 10 vita charms worth anything? lvl 5 req