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May 30 2011 01:10am
Quote (ortsead @ May 30 2011 05:06pm)
I like it, nice for self healing if the need arises


yeah ^_^

any1 got ideas for rogue abilities?

i usually go powerstrike and multistrike, but i tested back stab and its awesome

thinking 1-2 in powerstrike , 2-3 into backstab, and rest into multistrike

opinions?

and i think ima start muting as a spare time skill
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May 30 2011 01:44am
If you start muting I am willing to buy all of you angelic+ t1 essences... just pm me with stack numbers.

As far as multi-strike, I used to use this all of the time... but my dagger were not quite cut out for it at the higher levels. I tend to go powerstrike and then one of the abilities that hits 3 monsters.


Quote (CandiMan @ May 30 2011 01:47am)
well ima try out my way this climb and thanks but ima need some help on it ^_^



Good luck... I need to go sleep some.

This post was edited by -Kenny on May 30 2011 01:48am
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If you start muting I am willing to buy all of you angelic+ t1 essences... just pm me with stack numbers.

As far as multi-strike, I used to use this all of the time... but my dagger were not quite cut out for it at the higher levels. I tend to go powerstrike and then one of the abilities that hits 3 monsters.


well ima try out my way this climb and thanks but ima need some help on it ^_^

@ Kenny, how come that when i did the first few mutes, i got 1% but now im getting .5%?


This post was edited by CandiMan on May 30 2011 01:51am
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Quote (CandiMan @ May 29 2011 11:12pm)
yeah, but i need a ee dagger, it fits pefectly in what i need, and itll reset in like 4months if the 6month per ladder is true

and once i get a caster set, thatll be pretty nice if i want to hybrid

just bought it


That's Will's old dagger :) I almost bought it from him back in the day but then I got a staff with 79ee and 39 int instead (for much, much more)


Well I'm off to bed, good night all :zzz:
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Quote (CandiMan @ May 30 2011 01:47am)
well ima try out my way this climb and thanks but ima need some help on it ^_^

@ Kenny, how come that when i did the first few mutes, i got 1% but now im getting .5%?


I am not really sure... but depending on what you are muting the experience or prof points you get from the items will vary. It also varies on how fast you can mute it, if it takes longer and more clicks to mute the item... then you will get more prof points for it. I think just starting out you should be able to do magical-angelic items, possibly even higher but you need to find the items that are giving you optimal amount of experience(prof points) for the time it is taking you to mute the item.

Example: if a t1 magical is taking you 30 seconds and giving you 10 points but a t1 angelic is taking 2 minutes and giving you 20 points... it would be in your best interest to mute the magicals (more bang for your buck)

EDIT: signing off, will check this again when I wake up.

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I am not really sure... but depending on what you are muting the experience or prof points you get from the items will vary. It also varies on how fast you can mute it, if it takes longer and more clicks to mute the item... then you will get more prof points for it. I think just starting out you should be able to do magical-angelic items, possibly even higher but you need to find the items that are giving you optimal amount of experience(prof points) for the time it is taking you to mute the item.

Example: if a t1 magical is taking you 30 seconds and giving you 10 points but a t1 angelic is taking 2 minutes and giving you 20 points... it would be in your best interest to mute the magicals (more bang for your buck)


one last thing before u go

do i keep using magical essences through to rank 1?
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...okay so I was in game talking to smokey about whatever info i could glean from him trying to optimize my game. And we were talkin about how to build a fighter. I started talking about stat points and said I like dex better (because it boosts crit def[i was using axes]) and increases attack speed, he said that's not true only weapon type does that. I said well I saw it in a guide and he asked me to pm it to him cause he doesn't recall seeing that anywhere. I'd like to hear more pro opinions on this:
Quote (SmokeyMcPot1990 @ May 30 2011 12:51am)
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its here:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=24496799&f=74
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2.1 Fighter
Weapons he can use: Swords, Clubs, Axes
Armours: All
Status points at the beginning: 50 strength, 40 dexterity, 10 intelligence, 50 vitality.
Conclusion: Very balanced qualities in strength (basic damage), vitality (life and physical defence), and dexterity (increased attack speed, critical damage),


so maybe that's only on fighter i didn't read other classes yet cause i've only played that and sammy

so my friend bowlkilla
was wearing a level 15 armor with 4x ee
that's why i was trying to get him to buy my 1k life lvl 55 arm... might have made that climb a little smoother

he doesn't know much about LS and I only know what I've browsed... which sux cause half the guides are outdated

catch you around thanks for rollin'


ok i see that but yes that guide is wayyy outdated as ive played ls for quite a long time and dex has NEVER affected attack speed. that is based on weapon type. light weapons such as swords daggers staffs axes clubs all have 1 second attack speed and the heavy weapons such as longsword spears polearms warhammers and battleaxes have 2 second attack speeds. the ONLY thing that affects that is quick draw. just so you know ;) to learn a bit more click the play ladder slasher and on the left side of the screen it shows weapons skills stats etc. click on each one and it shows you a little more than what you may know if you have any questions about how things work feel free to pm me about them i will help to the best of my abilities. i know alot aobut this but not all. thanks for letting me know about this. its incorrect. as for the armor it didnt really matter as he has no real gear worth anything. weda been in the same boat. =] its all good we still all got to the master quest and he was wearing a lvl 35 armor with 77 ee ;)


would you mind if I posted this in a thread or two... I'd like to hear some more on these subjects; and btw thanks for dragging us to 71 I know it's more painful with us undergeared cats rolling along :thumbsup:


would i mind if you posted about dex affecting attack speed? sure go ahead but be aware ALOT of the ls community are assholes with no regards for new slashers and they may not be as kind or nice about your questions and suggestions as I. but i PROMISE the rate of attack is fixed based upon the weapon type not on your stats. ;)


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Quote (NevV @ May 30 2011 01:48am)
That's Will's old dagger :) I almost bought it from him back in the day but then I got a staff with 79ee and 39 int instead (for much, much more)


Well I'm off to bed, good night all :zzz:


wrong that was my old dagger :)

i sold it to will ha

what goes around in the guild stays around in the guild is what i always say

like herpes
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May 30 2011 04:36am
Quote (Ensane @ May 30 2011 07:39pm)
wrong that was my old dagger :)

i sold it to will ha

what goes around in the guild stays around in the guild is what i always say

like herpes


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Quote (ortsead @ May 30 2011 09:02pm)
...okay so I was in game talking to smokey about whatever info i could glean from him trying to optimize my game. And we were talkin about how to build a fighter. I started talking about stat points and said I like dex better (because it boosts crit def[i was using axes]) and increases attack speed, he said that's not true only weapon type does that. I said well I saw it in a guide and he asked me to pm it to him cause he doesn't recall seeing that anywhere. I'd like to hear more pro opinions on this:


You would be better to look up the updated notes about weapons and their ratios FIRST.
Then work on the characters STATS that would benefit your weapon of choice.

So... we take a look @ weapons and ratios:
http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=3

then we look @ character classes and their stats
http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=2

then we look @ Stats (Game basics)
http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=1

Strength: Increases the base damage and *critical hit chance for melee weapons by the ratio for that particular weapon.
Dexterity: Increases the base damage and *critical hit chance for melee weapons by the ratio for that particular weapon.
Vitality: Increases the base defense for armor. For every 25 stat points you have in vitality, you gain +1 to Life Regen. Every Level Up you will gain an amount of life equal to your base vitality.
Intelligence: Increases the base effect for charms. For every 25 stat points you have in intelligence, you gain +1 Mana Regen. Every Level Up you will gain an amount of mana equal to your base intelligence.

* Critical hits are subjected to a diminishing return ratio for base stats.

Bolded and Red... "subjected to a diminishing return"... Paul has stated awhile ago that this is based around
the LOWER stat in the ratio... but no one knows what amount will give you the best results... hence axes crit more than daggers.

Now... only Vitality indicates "base defense for armor" = physical only... and intelligence = magical defense (but does not state this in description)

Personally... Axe for fighter as you can put your first 10 points into dexterity and hit ratio from the start of the build... but... it has also been
recognised that you can just pump one stat and still deal the same average dmg throughout climb.

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