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Oct 28 2010 11:31pm
Quote (RobyImmortal @ 28 Oct 2010 22:26)
Good night all! Hope everyone has a great night. I can't seem to stay up the last few nights lol. I will be on tomorrow Sarah if you want to do some cata. We can get a jump on our lvl 16's maybe even get a MQ in if we go long enough.


Okay, sleep well. :)

I will def be wanting to cata tomorrow, and we'll try our darndest to get to MQ! :D

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Oct 28 2010 11:40pm
Stress is usually the biggest one even though people don't think about it. Stress can make you very unhealthy. <-- This

Even light exercise, like say light impact water aerobics, helps tremendously. Eating well is essential as well. Well, as much as can be afforded. Fish (Baked breaded Tilapia comes to mind), rice and veggies (go for things like tomatoes, squash, mushrooms cooked in very lightly salted water - it turns out like a broth). Drink distilled water, most tap water has fluoride now days. Fruit juice blends like Mango, Orange and Banana mixed with soy protein and psyllium Husk (good fiber) in a shake drink.

People can be very surprised by how much these types of changes can help.

A very good stress med is Klonopin (Clonazepam), in the benzodiazepine family. Most anti-depressents are total junk pushed by the pharmaceutical companies. Most of these newer drugs base is made from, of all things, fluoride. Something like 70% of all pharmaceutical companies are based out of Switzerland, and they could care less how the drugs affect people.

good rule of thumb: practice eating well, drink good distilled water and take as few medications as possible. That's my 3 cents anyways. :P

And RobyImormortal: Good on you for becoming an RN. You shooting for a practitioner? Or staying to at the RN level?

Any way, I'm out, take care everyone and good night. :)
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Oct 29 2010 12:00am
Quote (IcomeInPeace @ 28 Oct 2010 22:40)
Stress is usually the biggest one even though people don't think about it. Stress can make you very unhealthy. <-- This

Even light exercise, like say light impact water aerobics, helps tremendously. Eating well is essential as well. Well, as much as can be afforded. Fish (Baked breaded Tilapia comes to mind), rice and veggies (go for things like tomatoes, squash, mushrooms cooked in very lightly salted water - it turns out like a broth). Drink distilled water, most tap water has fluoride now days. Fruit juice blends like Mango, Orange and Banana mixed with soy protein and psyllium Husk (good fiber) in a shake drink.

People can be very surprised by how much these types of changes can help.

A very good stress med is Klonopin (Clonazepam), in the benzodiazepine family. Most anti-depressents are total junk pushed by the pharmaceutical companies. Most of these newer drugs base is made from, of all things, fluoride. Something like 70% of all pharmaceutical companies are based out of Switzerland, and they could care less how the drugs affect people.

good rule of thumb: practice eating well, drink good distilled water and take as few medications as possible. That's my 3 cents anyways. :P

And RobyImormortal: Good on you for becoming an RN. You shooting for a practitioner? Or staying to at the RN level?

Any way, I'm out, take care everyone and good night. :)



Thanks for the info and tips, Rob - I agree with this from personal experience. Fruits, certain fish, clean water and exercise = good health. Stress is a silent killer. The older you get, the more you need to learn about ways to de-stress.

Taking a lot of meds is stressful for the organs that need to process all that stuff out. I'm not a nurse, but I do know that much. :)

I went through a year of having major panic attacks (they called it panic disorder) as an undergrad in college, and they first put me on Xanax. It worked, but knocked me out cold for about 2 hours after each dose. As I got better (fewer attacks to no more attacks) and the dose was lowered, it still made me sleepy all the time. I was then put on Klonapin, and that was fine. It didn't knock me out like Xanax did, and it did help with keeping the panic away. Btw and fyi - panic attacks SUCK. If you've never experienced one, be VERY grateful!!! I'm sooooo glad I don't have that problem anymore! :)

Good night, and thanks for the help and info, guys. :hug:



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Oct 29 2010 12:18am
Quote (IcomeInPeace @ Oct 29 2010 01:40am)
Stress is usually the biggest one even though people don't think about it. Stress can make you very unhealthy. <-- This

Even light exercise, like say light impact water aerobics, helps tremendously. Eating well is essential as well. Well, as much as can be afforded. Fish (Baked breaded Tilapia comes to mind), rice and veggies (go for things like tomatoes, squash, mushrooms cooked in very lightly salted water - it turns out like a broth). Drink distilled water, most tap water has fluoride now days. Fruit juice blends like Mango, Orange and Banana mixed with soy protein and psyllium Husk (good fiber) in a shake drink.

People can be very surprised by how much these types of changes can help.

A very good stress med is Klonopin (Clonazepam), in the benzodiazepine family. Most anti-depressents are total junk pushed by the pharmaceutical companies. Most of these newer drugs base is made from, of all things, fluoride. Something like 70% of all pharmaceutical companies are based out of Switzerland, and they could care less how the drugs affect people.

good rule of thumb: practice eating well, drink good distilled water and take as few medications as possible. That's my 3 cents anyways.  :P

And RobyImormortal: Good on you for becoming an RN. You shooting for a practitioner? Or staying to at the RN level?

Any way, I'm out, take care everyone and good night. :)


Right now I am keeping it steady at RN for another year or two. Needed a break from school lol. In the next year or so I will be starting my Doctorate for Trauma (Emergency Room as Clinical Specialization Area)

EDIT: GF sleep lol. Pager went off for EMS (volunteer fireman for local company as a paramedic/interior firefighter). Just got back home now to try sleep again.

This post was edited by RobyImmortal on Oct 29 2010 12:20am
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Quote (RobyImmortal @ Oct 28 2010 11:50pm)
Totally my time to show off :P (I am an RN, Yes a male nurse Haha. Get your kicks and giggles in I don't mind :P ) I actually did a thesis paper on this subject for school as it always intrigued me because my mom, like you, has also had this since I was little.

There is no real name for it because the theory of it. Many refer to it as 'Climate sickness' though it has no real name because it is is not the actual reason for being sick. First off many people say it is mental, I can tell you it is not. When weather changes your body takes changes as well, that is basic knowledge. But to dig deeper into it, it is a tad more complex. Your body's number one priority is to try to maintain a stable temperature (98.6 degrees Fahrenheit) to keep it running correctly. The next is to keep it healthy and safe. So your body is always keeping a stable temperature to its best ability at all times.

Even when you are well, your body is fighting off numerous things. Stress is usually the biggest one even though people don't think about it. Stress can make you very unhealthy. Others things are pathogens, viruses, and anything else trying to make you ill. When this happens your body is doing numerous things, for example changing trying to kill them off by releasing different kinds of acids, chemicals, and antibodies. All of this takes a toll on your body. And when you add exterior temperature changing dramatically on a day by day basis as it has been the last few weeks your body gets tired/confused, and can only do one thing at a time. Your body will try to keep a temperature stable to the best of its ability as a first resort. When it has been doing this for a long period of time (day by day basis of temperature change) it can do only this and nothing else. When this is happening your body is neglecting anything else in your body. As I mentioned earlier there is always something trying to make you ill even when you are showing no signs and feel well. So while your body is concentrating on keeping a stable temperature it doesn't release the needed antibodies or chemicals to fight them off soon enough, and they take effect. When this happens those harmful pathogens, viruses, and other items are left undefended and ready to make you ill. So by definition it contributes to getting ill but is not the actual cause.

There are lots of ways of fighting them off even while your body is int his tired/confused state. Mainly just try to keep your intake of vitamins and minerals as high as you can. This means eating lots of fresh fruits and vegetables. Also try to stay away from caffeines and sugars (A little known fact for some, chocolate has enough caffeine in it to effect your body! So steer clear of it too) as they make your body work harder to digest and get rid of. This takes away from the time it could be releasing those much needed antibodies. Other then that try to stay as stress free as you can and with all of those little hints you should be pretty good! :)




So I hope that helps Sarah. Its been a while since I typed/thought about anything that much haha. Haven't had to in years. Let me know if you have any more questions :P I only put in the basic/important things I could think of.


Quote (IcomeInPeace @ Oct 29 2010 12:40am)
Stress is usually the biggest one even though people don't think about it. Stress can make you very unhealthy. <-- This

Even light exercise, like say light impact water aerobics, helps tremendously. Eating well is essential as well. Well, as much as can be afforded. Fish (Baked breaded Tilapia comes to mind), rice and veggies (go for things like tomatoes, squash, mushrooms cooked in very lightly salted water - it turns out like a broth). Drink distilled water, most tap water has fluoride now days. Fruit juice blends like Mango, Orange and Banana mixed with soy protein and psyllium Husk (good fiber) in a shake drink.

People can be very surprised by how much these types of changes can help.

A very good stress med is Klonopin (Clonazepam), in the benzodiazepine family. Most anti-depressents are total junk pushed by the pharmaceutical companies. Most of these newer drugs base is made from, of all things, fluoride. Something like 70% of all pharmaceutical companies are based out of Switzerland, and they could care less how the drugs affect people.

good rule of thumb: practice eating well, drink good distilled water and take as few medications as possible. That's my 3 cents anyways. :P

And RobyImormortal: Good on you for becoming an RN. You shooting for a practitioner? Or staying to at the RN level?

Any way, I'm out, take care everyone and good night. :)


Good to know, thanks! :)

Quote (RobyImmortal @ Oct 29 2010 01:18am)
Right now I am keeping it steady at RN for another year or two. Needed a break from school lol. In the next year or so I will be starting my Doctorate for Trauma (Emergency Room as Clinical Specialization Area)

EDIT: GF sleep lol. Pager went off for EMS (volunteer fireman for local company as a paramedic/interior firefighter). Just got back home now to try sleep again.


Cool man!
Gnite everyone :zzz:
I failed door 1 :(
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Oct 29 2010 10:42am
Quote (IrishGoddess69 @ Oct 29 2010 01:00am)
Thanks for the info and tips, Rob - I agree with this from personal experience. Fruits, certain fish, clean water and exercise = good health. Stress is a silent killer. The older you get, the more you need to learn about ways to de-stress.

Taking a lot of meds is stressful for the organs that need to process all that stuff out. I'm not a nurse, but I do know that much. :)

I went through a year of having major panic attacks (they called it panic disorder) as an undergrad in college, and they first put me on Xanax. It worked, but knocked me out cold for about 2 hours after each dose. As I got better (fewer attacks to no more attacks) and the dose was lowered, it still made me sleepy all the time. I was then put on Klonapin, and that was fine. It didn't knock me out like Xanax did, and it did help with keeping the panic away. Btw and fyi - panic attacks SUCK. If you've never experienced one, be VERY grateful!!! I'm sooooo glad I don't have that problem anymore!  :)

Good night, and thanks for the help and info, guys.  :hug:


When I was younger I had a few panic attacks. What caused them? no idea, but I do empathize to those that have them. As I grew older, they dissipated to where they no longer occur. I have my own possible theories on what caused them, but that isn't always the best thing to do is to self examine ourselves too much as we can often find symptoms for everything except what may be causing the problem.

In my case, I have a light case of Crohns (not sure if there is such a thing as "light" case but) which has forced me to take aggressive action to maintain my health. Dr's gave the run around to the point of wanting to pull my hair out, shuffling me from Dr to Dr. Personally, I think its because no one Dr wants to take responsibility for something like Crohns, so they pass the buck on someone else. One "medication" that was attempted to be pushed down my throat was Enbrel, which I utterly rejected. So I did some research and saw one treatment was the use of corticosteroids - namely prednisone. When I looked into this, I found that the liver process this into prednisolone - that actual active ingredient that reduces the inflammation with far fewer side effect simply because the liver isn't as involved as much as it would be with the former. As a result, I managed, without having a Dr shoving unneeded medications down my throat, to control this autoimmune system disorder quite effectively.

As mentioned above, I eat very well, exercise 4 times a week and don't allow the little things to stress me. The prednisolone I take about 3-4 times a year for about 2 1/2 weeks until the symptoms subside. As far as I can tell, no side effects has stricken me with this medication - no water retention, no weakening of the vascular system, etc. I still take Klonapin to relax my stomach from the discomfort. This medication is very effective for many things, not just anxiety. In the past few years, I've actually began to strength train and have seen vast improvements in my overall health. I wouldn't consider myself athletic, but on the lines of very fit for my condition and age (45). The real funny thing was when I brought up the prednisolone treatment to my Dr, she had never even heard of it. She literally had to look it up in her book. How sad is that when the patient has to inform the Dr of a possible treatment? - in my case that works.

Another thing to consider is our weight. Smoking cigarettes doesn't help either. Most importantly, listen to your body. If it needs rest, then rest. What makes having any kind of long term condition difficult is the outside world pressuring you to do more than you are capable of doing. Do what you can, maybe push a little but not too much. There is a happy medium between doing nothing and doing everything+. Do research and more research on everything from diet to medications to control whatever may be ailing you. Find a Dr that will work with you, not preach to you. I will not see a male Dr, their egos get int he way of, what would be otherwise good for the patient, in favor of control and keeping knowledge from you. Many Doctros do not want you to know how to treat yourself or even care about things like diet and whatnot. I call these Doctors pharmaceutical pimps - beware of them.

So if anyone was wondering where I knew the above information from, it was from my own experiences. I practically had to become a pharmacist, nutritionist and physical therapist all wrapped up into one to control the condition that was bestowed upon me. :lol:

No matter what the condition any of us may have or get, its not impossible to at least control and sometime reverse that condition - in my case control.

Today is a good day, nothing to do but lounge in my PJs :thumbsup:

Hope everyone's day has been a good one,

Rob
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Good afternoon all! Just got done with some work around the house I will be on here so just PM me if you to cata. I will check them every few while I'm surfing the web.
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Quote (IcomeInPeace @ 29 Oct 2010 09:42)
When I was younger I had a few panic attacks. What caused them? no idea, but I do empathize to those that have them. As I grew older, they dissipated to where they no longer occur. I have my own possible theories on what caused them, but that isn't always the best thing to do is to self examine ourselves too much as we can often find symptoms for everything except what may be causing the problem.

In my case, I have a light case of Crohns (not sure if there is such a thing as "light" case but) which has forced me to take aggressive action to maintain my health. Dr's gave the run around to the point of wanting to pull my hair out, shuffling me from Dr to Dr. Personally, I think its because no one Dr wants to take responsibility for something like Crohns, so they pass the buck on someone else. One "medication" that was attempted to be pushed down my throat was Enbrel, which I utterly rejected. So I did some research and saw one treatment was the use of corticosteroids - namely prednisone. When I looked into this, I found that the liver process this into prednisolone - that actual active ingredient that reduces the inflammation with far fewer side effect simply because the liver isn't as involved as much as it would be with the former. As a result, I managed, without having a Dr shoving unneeded medications down my throat, to control this autoimmune system disorder quite effectively.

As mentioned above, I eat very well, exercise 4 times a week and don't allow the little things to stress me. The prednisolone I take about 3-4 times a year for about 2 1/2 weeks until the symptoms subside. As far as I can tell, no side effects has stricken me with this medication - no water retention, no weakening of the vascular system, etc. I still take Klonapin to relax my stomach from the discomfort. This medication is very effective for many things, not just anxiety. In the past few years, I've actually began to strength train and have seen vast improvements in my overall health. I wouldn't consider myself athletic, but on the lines of very fit for my condition and age (45). The real funny thing was when I brought up the prednisolone treatment to my Dr, she had never even heard of it. She literally had to look it up in her book. How sad is that when the patient has to inform the Dr of a possible treatment? - in my case that works.

Another thing to consider is our weight. Smoking cigarettes doesn't help either. Most importantly, listen to your body. If it needs rest, then rest. What makes having any kind of long term condition difficult is the outside world pressuring you to do more than you are capable of doing. Do what you can, maybe push a little but not too much. There is a happy medium between doing nothing and doing everything+. Do research and more research on everything from diet to medications to control whatever may be ailing you. Find a Dr that will work with you, not preach to you. I will not see a male Dr, their egos get int he way of, what would be otherwise good for the patient, in favor of control and keeping knowledge from you. Many Doctros do not want you to know how to treat yourself or even care about things like diet and whatnot. I call these Doctors pharmaceutical pimps - beware of them.

So if anyone was wondering where I knew the above information from, it was from my own experiences. I practically had to become a pharmacist, nutritionist and physical therapist all wrapped up into one to control the condition that was bestowed upon me. :lol:

No matter what the condition any of us may have or get, its not impossible to at least control and sometime reverse that condition - in my case control.

Today is a good day, nothing to do but lounge in my PJs :thumbsup:

Hope everyone's day has been a good one,

Rob


I too made the mistake of looking for reasons why I had those panic attacks - I came up with about 50 different answers, and not even knowing why I had them helped get rid of them. <_< Only time and taking care of myself/reducing stressors did that. One help I did have back then was a friend who was getting his PharmD (Doctorate in Pharmacy = pharmacist) and he helped me understand different medications. He is still a great friend and if I have a question about medications and how they affect they body/mind, I just call him (he's my age, and has been a PharmD for nearly 20 years now).

Oh boy, Rob. :( Even a mild case of Crohn's is a horrible thing to deal with. My aunt has a "normal" case and went through hell as a child, with many surgeries and severe diet restrictions. She has the diet restrictions and medication (not sure what she takes for this) to this day, and she is now 56. Do you know any pharmacists personally, Rob? Through my pharmacist friend, I found out that many pharmacists (esp. the ones our age) know more about medications than some doctors. They just can't countermand a doctor's orders while on duty (unless there is something in a patient's record that indicates a problem with the new medication, ofc). They CAN tell you their opinion and more thorough advice when they are off the clock, so to speak.

And yes, diet and exercise is important, as is time to simply do what you want to do. Goofing off or doing nothing can be important to your health, too. :)

Speaking of which, I'm doing absolutely nothing today, and that suits me just fine. It's a lovely day, sunny and breezey, and I'm happy I don't have anywhere to be or anything to do. :D

Hope everyone else is having a great day, too. It's Friday, yay! ^_^

This post was edited by IrishGoddess69 on Oct 29 2010 03:01pm
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Oct 29 2010 03:06pm
I'm still in pain... ballicks! Taking meds. and trying this new thing now... homemade to cleanse my troath :D

I'll be back a bit later, gtg with my sister to a in house dentist. Need to look out for our siblings, specially the females :o

Imma try and slash a bit before I leave or do some p/c's... :unsure:
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Oct 29 2010 03:53pm
Good afternoon Rob to you to as well. :thumbsup:

Sarah, no I don't know any pharmacist personally, besides myself (jokingly) :lol: I had to practically become one to figure out what the Doctors wouldn't tell me or didn't know. So far, have had no surgeries, but I do keep myself very fit overall. I basically have seen the same Dr for the last 18 years and she listens to me when I suggest something. So far, its worked out well. I just hope she keeps practicing, I seriously doubt I could find another Dr like her. I may try something new in the next few months. HCG therapy. HCG stands for Human Choriogonadotropin. It basically boosts the natural testosterone production levels (in men) equivalent to their later 20s. Its a hormone that is produced, of all places, by women during the early stages of pregnancy. When injected in men however, it boosts the immune system and overall vigor of the male's ability to fight any type of condition, in my case Crohns. The Dr I see is becoming HCG certified, since its not FDA approved yet (not to be confused with illegal steroids - its legal but its uses are for weight loss in women thus far and low T in men), and will monitor my system through blood tests to see how I respond. It's one of the safest ways to roll back the clock, so to speak, in men that I have found out about. If stopped, there are no ill effects. If used, the side effects are almost none existent. This hormone will help women lose weight as well. This should not be confused with Human Growth Hormone or Artificial Steroids. Those are a whole other beast. And I won't grow a Neanderthal forehead. :lol:

James, I rather put my hand in a kiln than go to a dentist :lol:
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