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May 2 2011 10:22am
morning all.... still looking for like a 47-71 then another MQ!

EDIT: also keep sending t1 arcane+ to 229618, thanks!

This post was edited by -Kenny on May 2 2011 10:23am
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bin laden's dead!!

not a joke... turn on cnn or any news station


im not sure if anyone else is following this now but for some reason The US GOVT thought it was a good idea to bury the body at sea === with only a picture taken to identify the deceased as bin laden......

This sounds REALLLLLY fishy
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May 2 2011 10:26am
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im not sure if anyone else is following this now but for some reason The US GOVT thought it was a good idea to bury the body at sea === with only a picture taken to identify the deceased as bin laden......

This sounds REALLLLLY fishy


Yep, good ol' USA always trying to cover things up and take credit for things. Sometimes I am not very proud to live here... you would think they would want to do DNA/Dental testing to make 100% sure it was him. Could have been some sheep hearder that looked like BinLadin or a big conspiracy.



Imo they should have displayed the body publicly and let all the people he ravaged have their way with it, much like they did with Saddam.



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Please do not give in to conspiracy theories guys.... Burying him at sea prevents followers of his from building a shrine at the place of his body (if he happened to be buried somewhere on land). Along with this, it is the right thing to do to appease certain religious communities in that area.  Also, if he is not really dead (which is incredibly doubtful) he will be the first to make this known to show that the U.S. Government is lying to all it's people.


I agree with you, but after all the BS he has put my country through, I wish they hung him up for all to see.

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Please do not give in to conspiracy theories guys.... Burying him at sea prevents followers of his from building a shrine at the place of his body (if he happened to be buried somewhere on land). Along with this, it is the right thing to do to appease certain religious communities in that area. Also, if he is not really dead (which is incredibly doubtful) he will be the first to make this known to show that the U.S. Government is lying to all it's people.

EDIT: I would have liked to have some "proof" of it as well, but they did what they thought was right, and according to the past... it was correct in this situation to do what they did. It would have been much different if he was caught alive like Saddam was. I am just happy that the face of terrorism has been killed and hope that we will be able to slowly move out of Afghanistan with our troops now.


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if it is a conspiracy theory though, it is timely so that obama can get re-elected......................hmmmmmmmmmm

There will always be people taking shots at Obama, for ANY reason they can possibly think of, if it fits or does not. Same shit with the birth certificate, and him being secretly Muslim. You just need to educate yourself with the resources you have available and it is very easy to see through most conspiracy theories. Also, if this were a stunt and it was some how found out that the government lied about Bin Laden being dead... don't you think the Obama administration has more to lose than to gain from it? It would surely seal his fate as far as not being re-elected. There are much more important things thank this that we as the United States need to concern ourselves with.

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Please do not give in to conspiracy theories guys.... Burying him at sea prevents followers of his from building a shrine at the place of his body (if he happened to be buried somewhere on land). Along with this, it is the right thing to do to appease certain religious communities in that area. Also, if he is not really dead (which is incredibly doubtful) he will be the first to make this known to show that the U.S. Government is lying to all it's people.


if it is a conspiracy theory though, it is timely so that obama can get re-elected......................hmmmmmmmmmm
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Just would like to share this with all of you, since at the moment this is on topic. Here is the short article if you do not want to read this block of text: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/05/02/osama_and_chants_of_usa



USA! USA!" is the wrong response
Bin Laden's death is a great relief, but by cheering it we're mimicking our worst enemies
BY DAVID SIROTA

AP
A driver and passengers celebrate the death of Osama bin Laden in the streets of Lawrence, Kan., on Sunday.
There is ample reason to feel relief that Osama bin Laden is no longer a threat to the world, and I say that not just because I was among the many congressional staffers told to flee the U.S. Capitol on 9/11. I say that because he was clearly an evil person who celebrated violence against all who he deemed "enemies" -- and the world needs less of such zealotry, not more.

However, somber relief was not the dominant emotion presented to America when bin Laden’s death was announced. Instead, the Washington press corps -- helped by a wild-eyed throng outside the White House -- insisted that unbridled euphoria is the appropriate response. And in this we see bin Laden’s more enduring victory -- a victory that will unfortunately last far beyond his passing.

For decades, we have held in contempt those who actively celebrate death. When we’ve seen video footage of foreigners cheering terrorist attacks against America, we have ignored their insistence that they are celebrating merely because we have occupied their nations and killed their people. Instead, we have been rightly disgusted -- not only because they are lauding the death of our innocents, but because, more fundamentally, they are celebrating death itself. That latter part had been anathema to a nation built on the presumption that life is an "unalienable right."

But in the years since 9/11, we have begun vaguely mimicking those we say we despise, sometimes celebrating bloodshed against those we see as Bad Guys just as vigorously as our enemies celebrate bloodshed against innocent Americans they (wrongly) deem as Bad Guys. Indeed, an America that once carefully refrained from flaunting gruesome pictures of our victims for fear of engaging in ugly death euphoria now ogles pictures of Uday and Qusay’s corpses, rejoices over images of Saddam Hussein’s hanging and throws a party at news that bin Laden was shot in the head.

This is bin Laden’s lamentable victory -- he has changed America’s psyche from one that saw violence as a regrettable-if-sometimes-necessary act into one that finds orgasmic euphoria in news of bloodshed. In other words, he’s helped drag us down into his sick nihilism by making us like too many other bellicose societies in history -- the ones that aggressively cheer on killing, as long as it is the Bad Guy that is being killed.

Again, this isn’t in any way to equate Americans who cheer on bin Laden’s death with, say, those who cheered after 9/11. Bin Laden was a mass murderer who had punishment coming to him, while the 9/11 victims were innocent civilians whose deaths are an unspeakable tragedy. Likewise, this isn’t to say hat we should feel nothing at bin Laden’s neutralization, or that the announcement last night isn't cause for any positive feeling at all -- it most certainly is.

But it is to say that our reaction to the news last night should be the kind often exhibited by victims’ families at a perpetrator’s lethal injection -- a reaction typically marked by both muted relief but also by sadness over the fact that the perpetrators’ innocent victims are gone forever, the fact that the perpetrator's death cannot change the past, and the fact that our world continues to produce such monstrous perpetrators in the first place.

When we lose the sadness part -- when all we do is happily scream "USA! USA! USA!” at news of yet more killing in a now unending back-and-forth war -- it’s a sign we may be inadvertently letting the monsters win.
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May 2 2011 10:49am
any1 up for a 1-71 climb?

we are 2 ppl so far =)

oaiaaia - Monk
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This post was edited by dacaldha on May 2 2011 10:50am
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any1 up for a 1-71 climb?

we are 2 ppl so far =)

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Would love if you guys could somehow pick me up at 47...... I have been trying to get this MQ for like 2 days now.
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May 2 2011 10:53am
Quote (ineverlose @ May 2 2011 11:25am)
im not sure if anyone else is following this now but for some reason The US GOVT thought it was a good idea to bury the body at sea === with only a picture taken to identify the deceased as bin laden......

This sounds REALLLLLY fishy


heh. I believe they never showed saddams face either did they??
I just find it funny that it took 10 years to apparently find him in his own mansion....
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Quote (-Kenny @ 2 May 2011 18:52)
Would love if you guys could somehow pick me up at 47...... I have been trying to get this MQ for like 2 days now.


well i guess we can play with 4 ppl until we are in ur range or some one else leaves at that point...
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