U wanna make LS better Rew ?
Then start by removing that 10 inch steel plate from Paul's forhead.
If he'd listen to us years ago we would have a better place.
Its plain simpel Rew, like paul said himself he has the game all lined out and its "his" game and not ours to decide what and what should not be.

At this momemt he can better take the server offline. saves him money on a power bill barely 20 people still play.
Then there is the fact of expansive vault who no1 can pay for.
i mean u pay 1200 fg a year for a lousy 25 slot vault, when do we make 1200 fg in LS??? not me in the past 3 years.

There is the fact we simply dont wanna do that fucking shit cata play with those shit quests that are worthless as hell with their crap rewards
but we want arena back just eng kill eng kill and not rape urself over 2 lousy ep's that only drop tier 1 items

Then speaking about shit quests, there is 1 quest we like NMNM but yeah we wont see that again because u have to do all the crap before that in order to activate it and even then
u have no guarantee that u wil find it before level 71 as it doesn't have to be in a map. (complete map without getting the NMNM Quest)

ow next point item drops are still crap even tho as he said he made some changes
it still has a way to low drop rate. if u slash at 55 u shouldn't be allowed to get tier I whites anymore.
(not speaking of GG items but skillable items)

AND MAKE THOSE GODDAMN WHITES SELLABLE !!

etc etc etc etc etc. but like i said the biggest step forwards would be removing that steel plate.
and since Paul doesn't wont and keeps his proud attitude then yeah we can prepare ourselfs to live with the fact that this game is comming to a end really soon.

long story short :
He can better take LS 3 years back in time as it was then, he's prolly have more succes then trying to fix this.
go back in time and just change the skin as it is now. basicly comes down to the same as Diablo 3,
Use the graphich from D3 in the diablo 2 game and u have a better game then they made now.

This post was edited by Dream_Theater on Jun 27 2013 03:42am

Talking of the vault costs:

1200fg aka 100fg a month would be the absolute minimum for those who arent even skilling... i used to have 1000 slots and i needed them.
There is no way i could pay that or most thers could. I cant even pay 50 slots without help.

If you want a full climbing setup in vault thats already 25-50 items usually and be able to carry shrinables ( casters need them since all the low tiers wont help you recover mana )
and especially to carry wellables as well, as the well isnt in town but one need ages to find one and ofc if you find one at last and you dont have the wellables on you or in vault
or cant find someone to hold your well until you transferred them ( well its easier to win lottery than to find other players these days ) then you need at least 50-75 vault slots to hold all of this.

So then we are at 2400fg or 3600fg already per year. And how to get that unless from other games or buying fg?
And then on TOP... it costs 100fg for only 7 guild transfer days to send items around and help each other.
That is 400fg per month and 4800fg per year...

Which guild can actually pay that on top of the regular vault costs? For any small guild, this is not payable...
There are only 2 ways of fixing this... either make the vault free or give much higher discounts or like the first 50 slots are free
or give a way to earn fg within ladder slasher to pay it easier.

So in the end, we have a lot of costs, no fg coming in from the game itself and no player base to make the multiplayer features work.
Not talking about fun, which should be the basis to play any game. I dont have fun without any challenges and just doing black runs.
Seeing my gear turn worthless because its not needed for that little black clicking to get to 71 within 2 hours.

This morning, we waited over 1 hour to get 5 ppl together somehow. This was my first full group in weeks... and i waited and searched every day.
At half way, one fell asleep and one had to go to bed because it was deep in the night. So the run was basically spoiled since it takes ages with 3 ppl.

This time, we were lucky to have a guildy climbing in range solo and find another player along the way. But how often does that happen these days?
I guess in 9/10 cases this scenario had meant the cata is over and we either solo our way for the next hours or reroll again and all the time is wasted.

And all that added together ultimately leads to where we are now...

long story short, the game was ruined upon removal of Arena wich made solo clicking alot better easier and faster.

true
pls paul think about it
i love ls
and all 20 active players love it too
but in 1 year or not so long a nice game will be dead -.-
pls paul think about it

Thing is it could be fixed really easy just with a couple updates for solo players and bring the players back to ls.

Not even necessarily by bringing arena back and remove cata ( which would bring most ppl back though ),
but it could just be implemented to the game we have now:


I still see a lot potential in the autopilot!!!!

It could be the connection we need between arena and catacombs...

e.g. with features like a usable auto pilot which is WAY FASTER and MORE INTELLIGENT ( atm, its a useless feature, like many others)
so one doesnt have to drive but can engange the mobs and click exactly just like back in the days.

The autopilot will do the driving and the player can mainly focus on killing mobs just like he used to in arena.

Then there could be something like a new mob chain counter again as reward!!!

E.G. for every mob slain in a row per level without regening or going to town,
the character gets more experience again and has a chance for more or better items to drop.

And with more mobs killed, the pilot will get more FUEL from the slain mobs and thus be able to drive faster.
So killing mobs would be a way to charge the autopilot so to speak.

= it would pay out to have good items again and be able to kill mobs in a row without regening.
Also, it would make skillables like FISH, GLYPHS or comfreys much more useful again as they could increase the duration.
At the same time, one doesnt have to drive and could gain increased speed with a longer mob chain.

Then the objectives and their rewards can be reworked so that they actually need to be done in order to get those chains.
Right now, objectives arent done at all and those that are fun like NMNM are so hard to get that most people never see them.

I still like the idea of making whites sellable as well so we have some kind of currency again epecially for beginners just like we had with mutables before it became a skill.
Therefore, wells should be on EVERY map at least once. If you clear a whole map, one should get a well for sure as reward.
Its still hard enough on high levels and bigger maps...

And last but not least... we need a way to get income form ladder slasher. One could still debate if its pure fg or something else.

Like for a vault, people could find vault pieces or something like that by killing mobs or by doing all objectives or whatever.
If they can gather a certain amount of them and stack them together, this will result in 25 slots for a month.
It would be free then, yet need active playing and work to get them together.

Ok i went along and just made a topic on the ladder slasher subforum to get the stone rolling.
Feel free to comment and discuss.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68047464&f=272&o=0

I hope this wont be closed again after a few hours but allow some open discussion. If it does get closed, im certainly done with this...

3X1DF's

Tried to slash last night. Our group fell apart @ 35

Ive got chars ready @ lvl 1/10/20/35

Lmk if need +1!

This post was edited by xaos4ever on Jun 27 2013 08:42am

Voted yes. Ill add to comments when not on my phone lol
But u hit everything right on the head!!

GZ mate