I had to just quote you on this...
Was it 1 or 2 items?

You are correct... I can handle the speed in which I do my runs... and @ level 50-71 I kill effectively fast and
have a better survival rate than pure Melee builds that run out of shrines... shit... I have to TRASH shrines
because I do not need them... so this means I can hold onto MORE wellable items and hunt wells with more ease.

Anyway... with my setup I like taking on 2-3 times EPs from level 50-64 and occasionally 67...
I heal up while taking damage, and at the same time I am charging up retribution... and then I deal 800-2k damage (dependent on base dmg and ability multiplier)

There is another logic to my madness by the way... most Hardcore players go for a minimum of 70 vitality and some go for 100.
Now with those extra stat points being placed into more life, they are actually missing out on the healing abilities returning 3-5 times
more life than they get with extra vitality... not just that, the extra points used to strength, means more damage, faster killspeed, less
damage and thus less healing... mind you when you can heal 800-1k fast, you can let your life go to 1k (or 700) and still be safe.

I agree... MORE DAMAGE = faster killspeed etc... but then I like being able to have longevity while in catacombs when pure melee'ers MAY
run out of shrines at higher levels and have to spend more time regening more life than my build and also spending more time in town.

Legendary angelwood club cost 10fg
Level Req: 50
Damage: 71 to 322
+45% Enhanced Effect
+2 Intelligence
+4% Mind Numb
+1% Parry
+11% Critical Flux
+9% Power Shot
+2% Glancing Blow

Magical tempered diamond chain mail cost 4.99fg
Level Req: 45
Physical Defense: 36 to 90
Magical Defense: 0 to 37
+30% Heal Mastery

Magical focused heal XI cost 7.99fg
Level Req: 40
Heals: 129 to 155
Mana Cost: 85
+52% Enhanced Effect


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Apr 8 2011 08:27pm

iso: lvl 71 well

Also... what will 23 dex 14 vit + mana lvl 10 armor get me... I have it on the MP for only 12 fg, can I get more for it?

those high vita builds are just a waste of stats. As long as your soloing and watching your like, base vita on a fighter is fine.....

I made took 3 different men to monks with all base vita then 45 vita on the monks

the main thing with how the shrine and catas are now, there is no reason to get low life in HC. If your life is like 60 % and your exploring new places, then go toss in a shrine, if your in the gray you can goto 50 or 40% ( cause no ep surprises)

if casting, I never healed really when soloing, I'd burn down to where my life was lower, then shrine some for life/mana, then go back in, if you use mana to heal yourself your going to need more shrines and typically with not so good gear at 35+ you start running out alot of times

as for shrines, if you have space, make men, run them up some fill them with shrines, get to lvl 10 or 15 and put on ees gear so you can hold more on them. just 1 or 2 extra shrines can usually help you find 3 to 5 more.

as I am muting, I reroll alot of 50 and 60 ee items usually....I'll save em for yall.

someone wants I can 1 fg these up

Angelic focused heal VI
Level Req: 15
Heals: 28 to 34
Mana Cost: 45

+14 Dexterity
+11 Intelligence
+1 to 3 Mana per Attack
+1% Parry

Magical focused heal VI
Level Req: 15
Heals: 48 to 58
Mana Cost: 45

+71% Enhanced Effect

On Market For: 5.00 fg
Ends in: 3 days, 2 hours


Rare wild heal VI
Level Req: 15
Heals: 5 to 57
Mana Cost: 45

+19 Dexterity
+2% Critical Flux

On Market For: 19.00 fg
Ends in: 1 days, 21 hours


Magical fire V
Level Req: 10
Spell Damage: 14 to 38
Mana Cost: 37

+18 Dexterity

On Market For: 15.00 fg




This post was edited by TexanDiablo on Apr 8 2011 09:42pm

Thanks for the nice gesture Tex, I am sure someone will need somethin'


+1, FDF, time for sleep. Got a busy day tomorrow but I will be on in the evenings, catch you all later.

Night man... I am about to mq again, wouldn't mind finding a well first though... as my mules are full (AGAIN)

Only managed a level and ab it, sorry guys
My fingers hurrttt, I was practicing guitar a lot today, and then I burnt my fingers -.-

Anyway, night!

Thank you for the suggestion of those items... they are very nice and also @ 1fg each... hopefully someone will take you up on that offer.

And... I will concur that base vita of 50+ (bit harder for robe characters and 40-45 vita) to be ideal and concentrate on more dmg.
As for the shrining... this is how I see it personally (remember this is not an arguement... just an opinion)

The time it takes to level up say 4 characters to level 15 is basically the same amount of time for me to gain 10 levels on my main character.
This also represents the amount of Proficiency points I would also gain... personally highest mule level should be level 5, no higher.
The time it takes to transfer shrineables from mule to main or vault or both (over a full MQ climb), means at least a level or 2 missed on Main.

My mules are normally loaded up with extra items that I could use IF I happen to pass to the next class, also... they are used to hold any wellables
when My vault and my main character is full while hunting a well... and I pick up every T3 + for welling, you never know what you can get later
on... to me there is a higher percentage chance to well something good & useful than it is to drop from a chest or a monster (EP or not).

I will admit that your style is very similar to mine, except that you concentrate on faster killing speed whereas I rely on longevity by healing
and slower killing speed because i do NOT want to spend an exuberant amount of fg on items... only use what I get for cheap or find...
I AM A SCROOGE... and a big one at that...

Thank you once again... your points ARE VALID... by no means my response to be taken as an argument... just a different outlook as some readers
may play the same way as you, or, they may play in a similar manner to me.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Apr 8 2011 10:46pm

Anyone around 15? Gonna be slashin for an hour or so

just got home from watching Your Highness
best fucking movie i have seen in a long time.

I will be slashing in a second... I need to mq, then I will be lvl 1. I was iso a well.