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Nov 11 2009 01:07am
right guys, help me decide

next climb on paly: do i cast (pure int, solo all the way), do i go melee (solo till 20-30, all stats in str/dex), or do i try hybrid (maybe 10-20 extra in int, then melee stats (solo till 20-30, then catacomb))?
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Nov 11 2009 01:18am
Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 11 2009 07:07pm)
right guys, help me decide

next climb on paly: do i cast (pure int, solo all the way), do i go melee (solo till 20-30, all stats in str/dex), or do i try hybrid (maybe 10-20 extra in int, then melee stats (solo till 20-30, then catacomb))?


Depends on gear availability?

For Hybrid:
Very nice EE weapon... with HM or Dex or Int
Very nice EE Armor... with HM or Dex or Str or Int
Very nice Main Charm... Str/Dex with HM
very nice Acc Heal Charm... 110% + EE

That is what I think for your Hybrid... Now that I am playing with Hybrid Monk...

Your Int Gear is pretty solid for pally Build... but no real backup mods... BUT... I could be wrong.

Give us an idea of your gear... for each setup... and also your stat placement
That would help tremendously
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Edit... this is my character @ level 52... If only I had a Focus Heal @ my level... it would make it alot faster to grind:

Rare tintitanium dagger
Level Req: 50
Damage: 125 to 220
+67% Enhanced Effect
+8% Heal Mastery


Mythical nightshade robe
Level Req: 35
Defense: 0 to 14
+21 Strength
+13 Intelligence

+1 Life Regen
+1 Critical Strike
+2 Jubilance

Magical focused heal VII
Level Req: 20
Heals: 57 to 69
Mana Cost: 65
+34 Strength

Mystical focused heal XI
Level Req: 40
Heals: 157 to 189
Mana Cost: 105
+74% Enhanced Effect
+1 to 16 Mana per Kill
+1% Armor Pierce

My stats are: (with items on)

Strength: 105
Dexterity: 65
Intelligence: 83
vitality: 45

Stats without items

Strength: 50
Dexterity: 65
Intelligence: 70
vitality: 45
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Now for a Hybrid TYPE character and not that great... I do very well actually.
I am sure your Pally will be alot better...


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 11 2009 01:30am
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Nov 11 2009 01:27am
ehhh i think i'll just cast again. i don't have good enough stat gear to be an effective hybrid. my highest stat plate only has 26str on it, and my mq charm 27str/15dex.

i actually have pretty sexy caster gear (though i wish i could get a higher ee charm and a higher int plate)
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Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 11 2009 07:27pm)
ehhh i think i'll just cast again. i don't have good enough stat gear to be an effective hybrid. my highest stat plate only has 26str on it, and my mq charm 27str/15dex.

i actually have pretty sexy caster gear (though i wish i could get a higher ee charm and a higher int plate)


well... give us your setup available now... we might be able to concoct a successful build for either setup:
Melee
Caster
Hybrid

You never know
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Anyway... on another note:
20:22 You have gained a rank in focused heal proficiency. (Rank: 5)
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Nov 11 2009 01:44am
at level 55:

Magical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 172 to 206

+97% Enhanced Effect

Mystical tempered diamond plate mail
Level Req: 45
Defense: 31 to 93

+26 Strength
+3% Damage Return
+1 Jubilance

Mystical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 84 to 100
Mana Cost: 135

+27 Strength
+15 Dexterity
+1% Physical Damage Reduction


that's my melee gear. all that'd be different on a hybrid is maybe the first 10-15 points into int instead of dex.

I'd probably aim for 80dex, but then i think i'd be only hitting around 110str. pure melee i'd be at around 125str

i mean sure, i'll be useful in catacombs, but i wouldn't be able to solo much at all - which is where there's real potential for drops (though i'm yet to see any)
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Nov 11 2009 02:24am
Quote (Cloudfire @ 11 Nov 2009 09:44)
at level 55:

Magical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 172 to 206

+97% Enhanced Effect

Mystical tempered diamond plate mail
Level Req: 45
Defense: 31 to 93

+26 Strength
+3% Damage Return
+1 Jubilance

Mystical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 84 to 100
Mana Cost: 135

+27 Strength
+15 Dexterity
+1% Physical Damage Reduction


that's my melee gear. all that'd be different on a hybrid is maybe the first 10-15 points into int instead of dex.

I'd probably aim for 80dex, but then i think i'd be only hitting around 110str. pure melee i'd be at around 125str

i mean sure, i'll be useful in catacombs, but i wouldn't be able to solo much at all - which is where there's real potential for drops (though i'm yet to see any)


Well I'd say go what ever is the fastest :lol:
Caster I think?

If you do go caster,
Don8 me the Axe :rofl:




Annyways guys:
I'm really busy with school these days,
So won't be able to slash much,
I'm now in week 11 of 14 so When thats over I'll have more free time,
Homework is and stays a bitch -.-
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Nov 11 2009 02:37am
Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 11 2009 02:44am)
...that's my melee gear. all that'd be different on a hybrid is maybe the first 10-15 points into int instead of dex.

I'd probably aim for 80dex, but then i think i'd be only hitting around 110str. pure melee i'd be at around 125str

i mean sure, i'll be useful in catacombs, but i wouldn't be able to solo much at all - which is where there's real potential for drops (though i'm yet to see any)

You have really nice gear compared to me lol, I think a hybrid would be an interesting route for you to try. I can't guarantee that your climb will go faster than pure INT casting, but hey why not try out hybrid and enjoy it?

With your gear in consideration, I'd say for the first points, go for at least 60 base INT minimum without gear. That'll give you a decent size mana pool and your heals will be nice too. If you wanted to go 80 base INT you would need a lot more sexier melee stat items.

With your melee gear equips at lv55, you will have 108 str guaranteed with no additional points.
Considering that the rest of your points might end up going all to dex, then 108 str is still pretty respectable for you to deal dmg.

Just to toss out some numbers... say you went for 65 base INT (initial 10-11 stat points + about 35 levels).
Then you decide to go all DEX for the rest of the climb.

Stats @ lv55
str: 108
dex: ~65
int: ~65
vit: 55

Stats @ lv70
str: 108
dex: ~80
int: ~65
vit: 55
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Nov 11 2009 03:08am
hmmmmmmm. thanks for doing what i couldn't be bothered doing :P

maybe i could try 50 base int, as that'd give me ~80dex at level 55. with a 139ee level 50 heal i should still be able to heal ok.

although i'd probably end up wanting to upgrade my axes and using all my fg on that :(

This post was edited by Cloudfire on Nov 11 2009 03:09am
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Nov 11 2009 03:19am
Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 11 2009 07:44pm)
at level 55:

Magical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 172 to 206

+97% Enhanced Effect

Mystical tempered diamond plate mail
Level Req: 45
Defense: 31 to 93

+26 Strength
+3% Damage Return
+1 Jubilance

Mystical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 84 to 100
Mana Cost: 135

+27 Strength
+15 Dexterity
+1% Physical Damage Reduction


that's my melee gear. all that'd be different on a hybrid is maybe the first 10-15 points into int instead of dex.

I'd probably aim for 80dex, but then i think i'd be only hitting around 110str. pure melee i'd be at around 125str

i mean sure, i'll be useful in catacombs, but i wouldn't be able to solo much at all - which is where there's real potential for drops (though i'm yet to see any)


I have looked at your INT gear... and to be franly honest... that is an awesome setup.
I would love to have your level 50 Focus Heal... it would make it so much easier for me... :lol:

Your Caste setup is by far the better... compared to Melee/Hybrid... I think you should trade off the INT weapon to a semi Hybrid setup...
Your club is like 50+ INT... can you exchange that for a sword/axe with 75EE/30 Int?... if you could get something similar (hopefully better),
would you consider the trade off?... or maybe 80EE/40HM Axe/sword???...

Your INT armor is also quite nice... maybe you can get something that can save you points... HM/25+ Dex (lvl55)... HM/75% EE (lvl55)...

Look at stats:
Starting points
Actual level points
Stat Targets

They all add up... for example... your main str/dex charm... for myself... I would use my 24 vita / 26 dex charm... for 3 reasons
1... 24 Vita adds defense to armor (you are using a lvl45... so it makes the base similar to a level 55)
2... 26 dexterity saves you 11 points... as your current charm has 15 dex...
3... combined... added defense & crit defense & crit chance is higher... meaning that it covers the so called extra 13% EE dmg...
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but remember... it is all upto personal preference...
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