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Nov 5 2008 05:35pm
Ok, Ive been gone for a couple of hours, and missed quite a bit. First off, let me say hello to everyone (Hi babe, Brandon, Roy, CoronaKing (sorry bro, havent met you yet) Zeke, and other BTG members that posted and tried to keep this a happy place))

From what Ive seen/read so far, we have a misunderstanding, that has been blown out of proportions. I understand that Mandys upset because the guild name was used for donation purposes without permission. I understand this, because both of us have made threads, but only done so in our names. We view things involving the guild as having direct impact on our members and the rest of the community. Her views were not in the wrong. That is my view on that. Brandon, your topic made her feel like you were publicly ridiculing her and embarrased her. Those are her views (Im sure if I left something out, Mandy will correct me) I am merely expressing what I have seen and head from her.

Brandon, you feel that you were trying to help the guild, and promote it with generosity. I can see where you do not think it was wrong to use the guild name, but you do have to realize that what you do (using the guild's name) may be misinterpreted by others, and could have negative impacts. Perhaps no such thing would have occured, or maybe it would. I cannot predict the future or other peoples actions. Only interpret what I see. Your post on the Co-Owner (Mandy) was based on trying to gain opinions, but you could have talked with mandy about it privately (Pms, or in LS). I see how you wanted opinions, but your post brought attention to her which was negative and hurt her feelings.

I do know this, we are a group of friends, and our goal as a guild is to help eachother, and the rest of the community. We follow the principles of respect (both to eachother, and other D2JSP members), trust, and integrity. We need to remember that all of our actions, are observed by others, and are not forgottien. Both in posting in other forums as well as LS, and ingame. This is a disagreement between two members that could have been avoided if some thinking had been done first. I am not taking sides here, as that is not what this guild is about. I respect and love my wife, and I respect my friends. Im trying to clear up the issues, so everyone needs to understand that you have to think about your actions before acting on them. This is not a critical issue, this can be worked out. It is not the first time we have had disagreements among other members, and it certainly wont be the last. Guilds come and go, members come and go, friends come and go but almost always stay friends. This is life. Neither member has to leave, but you both need to privately talk about your views, and understand and RESPECT them. I cannot, and will not make you do so. I do want to point out a few things, we have a guild comprised of 16 members, but only a few are currently and actively working to promote and improve it (either Directly or Indirectly). The purpose of this guild is to build friendships, and help others. There is a ranking structure to help others promote themselves by directly ranking the guild, and there are options for members to promote guild activities as well. All Mandy and I ask is that you ask us first if you wish to use the guild name in doing so. I hope this helps bring to light everyones viewpoint, and clear up the issues. I cant make you all understand, accept, love, or like oneanother, but I do expect that everyone respects one another. Also please remember that Mandy and I both run this guild together, I do not run it by myself. Every member that is active also helps this guild grow.

On a happier note, our guild has reached the 80 point marker, we have members who have been promoted through determination and hard work, and we have other guilds that enjoy our company and gaming on LS. THis guild has alot of potential, and Mandy and I both hope to see it reached and continue to grow.
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Nov 5 2008 05:56pm
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebus. I hope thats over with. heart.gif everybody! Have a drink and relax, on me!
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Nov 5 2008 05:59pm
Quote (pHLeader @ Wed, Nov 5 2008, 05:53pm)
Hello Hylian Legends. What you all up to?


Hello there, just currently slashing with Mandy, and trying to have a good time. How bout you?

Hello Bmc, thx for the happiness post biggrin.gif
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Quote (HylianHero @ Wed, Nov 5 2008, 03:35pm)
Ok, Ive been gone for a couple of hours, and missed quite a bit. First off, let me say hello to everyone (Hi babe, Brandon, Roy, CoronaKing (sorry bro, havent met you yet) Zeke, and other BTG members that posted and tried to keep this a happy place))

From what Ive seen/read so far, we have a misunderstanding, that has been blown out of proportions. I understand that Mandys upset because the guild name was used for donation purposes without permission. I understand this, because both of us have made threads, but only done so in our names. We view things involving the guild as having direct impact on our members and the rest of the community. Her views were not in the wrong. That is my view on that. Brandon, your topic made her feel like you were publicly ridiculing her and embarrased her. Those are her views (Im sure if I left something out, Mandy will correct me) I am merely expressing what I have seen and head from her.

Brandon, you feel that you were trying to help the guild, and promote it with generosity. I can see where you do not think it was wrong to use the guild name, but you do have to realize that what you do (using the guild's name) may be misinterpreted by others, and could have negative impacts. Perhaps no such thing would have occured, or maybe it would. I cannot predict the future or other peoples actions. Only interpret what I see. Your post on the Co-Owner (Mandy) was based on trying to gain opinions, but you could have talked with mandy about it privately (Pms, or in LS). I see how you wanted opinions, but your post brought attention to her which was negative and hurt her feelings.

I do know this, we are a group of friends, and our goal as a guild is to help eachother, and the rest of the community. We follow the principles of respect (both to eachother, and other D2JSP members), trust, and integrity. We need to remember that all of our actions, are observed by others, and are not forgottien. Both in posting in other forums as well as LS, and ingame. This is a disagreement between two members that could have been avoided if some thinking had been done first. I am not taking sides here, as that is not what this guild is about. I respect and love my wife, and I respect my friends. Im trying to clear up the issues, so everyone needs to understand that you have to think about your actions before acting on them. This is not a critical issue, this can be worked out. It is not the first time we have had disagreements among other members, and it certainly wont be the last. Guilds come and go, members come and go, friends come and go but almost always stay friends. This is life. Neither member has to leave, but you both need to privately talk about your views, and understand and RESPECT them. I cannot, and will not make you do so. I do want to point out a few things, we have a guild comprised of 16 members, but only a few are currently and actively working to promote and improve it (either Directly or Indirectly). The purpose of this guild is to build friendships, and help others. There is a ranking structure to help others promote themselves by directly ranking the guild, and there are options for members to promote guild activities as well. All Mandy and I ask is that you ask us first if you wish to use the guild name in doing so. I hope this helps bring to light everyones viewpoint, and clear up the issues. I cant make you all understand, accept, love, or like oneanother, but I do expect that everyone respects one another. Also please remember that Mandy and I both run this guild together, I do not run it by myself. Every member that is active also helps this guild grow.

On a happier note, our guild has reached the 80 point marker, we have members who have been promoted through determination and hard work, and we have other guilds that enjoy our company and gaming on LS. THis guild has alot of potential, and Mandy and I both hope to see it reached and continue to grow.


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was looking for an applause emoticon, but that will have to do smile.gif
hey guys i found a 57ee tier 3 fire last night ^^ i donno, do mages use charms at that level or just whack + lpk till lvl 10ish? (btw if any of you want it let me know biggrin.gif)
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Nov 5 2008 06:01pm
Quote (AlmondTofu @ Wed, 5 Nov 2008, 17:59)
hug.gif
was looking for an applause emoticon, but that will have to do smile.gif
hey guys i found a 57ee tier 3 fire last night ^^ i donno, do mages use charms at that level or just whack + lpk till lvl 10ish? (btw if any of you want it let me know biggrin.gif)


my friend used charms with his mage the whole time and he did pretty good, MQ every day or 2 days if he was unlucky

Quote (HylianHero @ Wed, 5 Nov 2008, 17:59)
Hello there, just currently slashing with Mandy, and trying to have a good time.  How bout you? 

Hello Bmc, thx for the happiness post biggrin.gif


solo slashin cause no good groups around level 36

This post was edited by pHLeader on Nov 5 2008 06:01pm
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Nov 5 2008 10:57pm
Quote (HylianHero @ Wed, 5 Nov 2008, 18:35)
Ok, Ive been gone for a couple of hours, and missed quite a bit. First off, let me say hello to everyone (Hi babe, Brandon, Roy, CoronaKing (sorry bro, havent met you yet) Zeke, and other BTG members that posted and tried to keep this a happy place))

From what Ive seen/read so far, we have a misunderstanding, that has been blown out of proportions. I understand that Mandys upset because the guild name was used for donation purposes without permission. I understand this, because both of us have made threads, but only done so in our names. We view things involving the guild as having direct impact on our members and the rest of the community. Her views were not in the wrong. That is my view on that. Brandon, your topic made her feel like you were publicly ridiculing her and embarrased her. Those are her views (Im sure if I left something out, Mandy will correct me) I am merely expressing what I have seen and head from her.

Brandon, you feel that you were trying to help the guild, and promote it with generosity. I can see where you do not think it was wrong to use the guild name, but you do have to realize that what you do (using the guild's name) may be misinterpreted by others, and could have negative impacts. Perhaps no such thing would have occured, or maybe it would. I cannot predict the future or other peoples actions. Only interpret what I see. Your post on the Co-Owner (Mandy) was based on trying to gain opinions, but you could have talked with mandy about it privately (Pms, or in LS). I see how you wanted opinions, but your post brought attention to her which was negative and hurt her feelings.

I do know this, we are a group of friends, and our goal as a guild is to help eachother, and the rest of the community. We follow the principles of respect (both to eachother, and other D2JSP members), trust, and integrity. We need to remember that all of our actions, are observed by others, and are not forgottien. Both in posting in other forums as well as LS, and ingame. This is a disagreement between two members that could have been avoided if some thinking had been done first. I am not taking sides here, as that is not what this guild is about. I respect and love my wife, and I respect my friends. Im trying to clear up the issues, so everyone needs to understand that you have to think about your actions before acting on them. This is not a critical issue, this can be worked out. It is not the first time we have had disagreements among other members, and it certainly wont be the last. Guilds come and go, members come and go, friends come and go but almost always stay friends. This is life. Neither member has to leave, but you both need to privately talk about your views, and understand and RESPECT them. I cannot, and will not make you do so. I do want to point out a few things, we have a guild comprised of 16 members, but only a few are currently and actively working to promote and improve it (either Directly or Indirectly). The purpose of this guild is to build friendships, and help others. There is a ranking structure to help others promote themselves by directly ranking the guild, and there are options for members to promote guild activities as well. All Mandy and I ask is that you ask us first if you wish to use the guild name in doing so. I hope this helps bring to light everyones viewpoint, and clear up the issues. I cant make you all understand, accept, love, or like oneanother, but I do expect that everyone respects one another. Also please remember that Mandy and I both run this guild together, I do not run it by myself. Every member that is active also helps this guild grow.

On a happier note, our guild has reached the 80 point marker, we have members who have been promoted through determination and hard work, and we have other guilds that enjoy our company and gaming on LS. THis guild has alot of potential, and Mandy and I both hope to see it reached and continue to grow.




I understand both ways of thinking. Nuttin but luv.


Howsthe slashing going for all? I'm gonna be 45-50 today, and i just mqed last night......<<<big time loser i am.
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Nov 6 2008 12:13am
Quote (brandon42 @ Wed, Nov 5 2008, 08:57pm)
I understand both ways of thinking. Nuttin but luv.


Howsthe slashing going for all? I'm gonna be 45-50 today, and i just mqed last night......<<<big time loser i am.


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gl passing to samurai, with your gear you should have passed long before me lol
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Nov 6 2008 12:02pm
Quote (AlmondTofu @ Thu, Nov 6 2008, 01:13am)
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gl passing to samurai, with your gear you should have passed long before me lol


Brandons already a samurai, hes going for pally zeke.

Brandon, I know you feel things are clear between the two of you, but you and Mandy need to have another talk offline, I think there are still some misunderstandings between the two of you.

Gl to all members today on the slashing, and whatever is going on in the real world.
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Nov 6 2008 12:11pm
Quote (HylianHero @ Thu, 6 Nov 2008, 13:02)
Brandons already a samurai, hes going for pally zeke.

Brandon, I know you feel things are clear between the two of you, but you and Mandy need to have another talk offline, I think there are still some misunderstandings between the two of you.

Gl to all members today on the slashing, and whatever is going on in the real world.


I don't mind at all. We have talked quite a bit and i've apoligized more than once, but I'll do what need be for the guild.

working on another mq, maybe this one won't be 7th first door sammi fail in a row. haha
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Nov 6 2008 01:39pm
Quote (brandon42 @ Thu, Nov 6 2008, 01:11pm)
I don't mind at all. We have talked quite a bit and i've apoligized more than once, but I'll do what need be for the guild.

working on another mq, maybe this one won't be 7th first door sammi fail in a row. haha


Ty, and gl on your next MQ. I have such bad lag that I cant even gain one level a day if that. Oh well. Gl to you!
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