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Oct 15 2010 03:43pm
Lol, murphey is on HC too

Rare woolen robe
Physical Defense: 0 to 4
Magical Defense: 6 to 18

+14 Vitality
+1% Magical Damage Reduction
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Oct 15 2010 03:51pm
Quote (Cloudfire @ Oct 15 2010 05:43pm)
Lol, murphey is on HC too

Rare woolen robe
Physical Defense: 0 to 4
Magical Defense: 6 to 18

+14 Vitality
+1% Magical Damage Reduction


damn him...
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Oct 15 2010 03:57pm
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Experience gain/Trap doors hasn't changed. But, I'll tell you what has:

Catacombs prior to 1.20 worked like this: Each mob could spawn from -3 to +1 your level. If you fight a mob lower than you, we all know, you get less experience. If you fight higher mobs, you have never gained more experience. Ask anyone that threw high level items into a well (getting a much higher mob), you never got more experience. Or, ask anyone that actually remembers how catacombs worked before, and they'll tell you that EXP was always capped at about, you got it, 1% per kill, no matter how many trapdoors you hit in succession. (Excepting of course, EPs, but those cap much the same as well mobs)

So, let's go over an example, you're level 10, fighting level 7 to 11 mobs.. Most of them are lower level, so you appear to get little experience. You fall through a trap door, that increases the MOB level by a random amount. Let's say just +1 for arguments sake. Now, you're fighting level 8 to 12 mobs. Since you are fighting more mobs near your level, you are getting "more" experience, but you're still getting the same from the 10, 11, and 12s, because they are at or over your level. Let's say you fall through another trapdoor, and now you're at +4 levels, now you're fighting level 11 to 15 mobs. At this point, you have already surpassed the maximum benefits, because all mobs are at or above your level (until you level up of course). Additional trapdoors will only make the mobs stronger, with better drops, but not more experience. This is why if you join a group at say, level 40, with a level 37 driver, you get such lousy exp. All the mobs are pretty much guaranteed to be lower than your level, thus, much lower experience gain.

Now, fast forward to today:
Day 1 of 1.20: "Solo XP sucks in catacombs! Waaaahh!" (See above, that's "why"). Solution? Make mobs ONLY spawn at or above your level (0 to +1) if you are solo. Now you are always fighting "max level" mobs, whether you have a trapdoor or not, and never suffering experience penalties for fighting lower level mobs.

So, let me ask you a question, because you won't get this any other way. Do you want: (Rhetorical question, don't bother making another topic to answer.)
1) Back the way it was, trapdoors = "more" experience, but solo mobs will be lower than your level most of the time, netting less overall experience, items, and proficiency gains as a result, unless you hit said trapdoor, or
2) As it is now

The mob level greater than your level not giving more experience has been this way since the beginning, and it most assuredly will not be changing, and in fact will likely change the opposite, to where once mobs are a certain amount over you, you actually get less experience for fighting them. But, I'm getting ahead of myself, you'll understand that a lot more, and it'll make a lot more sense in future updates (and won't be anywhere near as bad as it sounds).

Oh, and no, I honestly have no plans to do an auto map fill of a players unexplored territory. You see what you saw. This too will make sense.. in time..

Thanks, have a great day. 


Hehe...
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Oct 15 2010 04:02pm
Quote (Tr3vor @ Oct 15 2010 05:42pm)
well imma be gone all weekend so if you gusy can track these and bump them whenever you get the chance but only after 4hours since last post  it would be greatly appreciated :D

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donations will be involved if you are poor ;)


I'm poor
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Oct 15 2010 04:06pm
Quote (tyler225 @ Oct 15 2010 06:02pm)
I'm poor


you and me both brother
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Oct 15 2010 04:15pm
sry jesse net fucked up on my way back
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Oct 15 2010 04:17pm
Quote (monsta816 @ Oct 15 2010 06:15pm)
sry jesse net fucked up on my way back


I figured you got RAMPAGE'd



Anyone slashing in the 35 range? Gonna take a shower but I will be around.

This post was edited by jlhromeo on Oct 15 2010 04:19pm
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Oct 15 2010 04:43pm
Quote (Tr3vor @ Oct 15 2010 04:50pm)
finally sold something lol my perfect lvl 30 dex charm for 1500.
paid you back jesse ty :D


dump the rest into the lotto imo.. :P



Quote (jlhromeo @ Oct 15 2010 06:06pm)
you and me both brother


i heard that..
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Oct 15 2010 05:18pm
Found this last night... get some FG hopefully for it:

Rare comfrey
Level Req: 10
Use Item to Receive Effect
Heals 845 Life
Recovers 1656 Mana

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Oct 15 2010 05:21pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 15 2010 05:18pm)
Found this last night... get some FG hopefully for it:

Rare comfrey
Level Req: 10
Use Item to Receive Effect
Heals 845 Life
Recovers 1656 Mana


Sexy :drool:

Quote (tyler225 @ Oct 15 2010 04:02pm)
I'm poor


:lol:

Quote (jlhromeo @ Oct 15 2010 04:06pm)
you and me both brother


You rich more like it :P
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