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Mar 10 2010 05:34pm
Quote (jlhromeo @ 11 Mar 2010 01:32)
do not go pure str if you plan on healing.  healers need INT, that I do know.  how much is greatly debatable.  some say 70, some say max it, some say 100, some say log off jsp and never return (ignore those last people)


hhhhm ok.

What is you opinion on the rogu vs th gaurd?
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Mar 10 2010 05:52pm
Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 11:34am)
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Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 11:29am)
hhhhm thats a good point of view. I might make both.
Start with the rogue to gain some fg and when I think i need smth better i will buy hm armor ee wep en hm charm.
Since i will already have the heals.

Also: how mich mana does a rogue gain per lvl? Is that the same at all chars?
Because rogues have 35 les int then mages.

And should i go with pure str on the gaurd?


do not go pure str if you plan on healing. healers need INT, that I do know. how much is greatly debatable. some say 70, some say max it, some say 100, some say log off jsp and never return (ignore those last people)


hhhhm ok.

What is you opinion on the rogu vs th gaurd?


Base your build on stats (Melee/Healer)
Dexterity: Minimum = 90
Intelligence: Minimum = 70
Strength: Rest
Vita: Base

Now... these can be tested... more dex MAY be needed.
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#12363
Mar 10 2010 05:53pm
that sounds like a good place to start Rex, adjust it from there after you have tested it.
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Mar 10 2010 05:54pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 10 2010 06:09pm)
create a character based on the gear you have available...
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Well... definately go for Guard... :lol:
Trev can answer those for you
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Think of it this way...
Invest in something that works at a reasonable price

Do not invest in something and find out it is an utter fail and then you have to invest again.
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Other way to think of it...

Guard works... so around 85-99% successful welling... thus giving you a 10% increased chance of a return for funds invested

Rogue works... but only around 70-75% succussfully... thus giving you less % chance of a return in funds you invested.


no i cant dont melee guard i just pure heal
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#12365
Mar 10 2010 05:56pm
Quote (jlhromeo @ 11 Mar 2010 01:32)
do not go pure str if you plan on healing.  healers need INT, that I do know.  how much is greatly debatable.  some say 70, some say max it, some say 100, some say log off jsp and never return (ignore those last people)

well me personally i would do rogue, they have nicer stats for hybrid, but i also have plenty of rogue usable gear at my disposal so that weighs on my decision.

i would have to hybrid though because i dont have damage charm nor do i have int gear.  just melee stuff.

e:  i do have some swords with heal mastery that you can use, they would help you in catacombs at least if you were trying to be the healer, none have EE but they can still help.  i will check to see if i have any INT stuff too.


ok well lmk if you have any int scales.
I think im going for rogue, here is why:
-more def then mage
-more dex then mage
-waaaay more cheaper gear
-i would only need lvl 25 int wep and armor and lvl 55 int wep and armor(and maybe smth in between)
-heals are usable for other chars
-ee charms are cheap

but:
-i migh have low dex
-lower succes rate then a hybrid

but if my rogue sucks:
the int wep and armor will be hard to sell since its pretty much useless to anyone who isnt as crazy as me.
I will use the heals on my gaurd i will make if my rogue sucks.
And i will resell the ee charms

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Mar 10 2010 05:58pm
Quote (diablostoner @ 11 Mar 2010 01:54)
no i cant  dont melee guard i just pure heal


lol?
Why do you own that sexy ee mana sword then?
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Mar 10 2010 05:59pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 10 2010 06:52pm)
Base your build on stats (Melee/Healer)
Dexterity: Minimum = 90
Intelligence: Minimum = 70
Strength: Rest
Vita: Base

Now... these can be tested... more dex MAY be needed.


yes i would recomend ore ike 80 int on a low base int character and make sure u have 90 dex statting a lil str is pointless youd be ebtetr off having a lil more mana or dex imo

rogue hybrid /caster don't even waste your fg imo.

any hybrid you are GONNA need to spend alot fo fg for it to even besuccessful..
your weapon is gonna be costlky to be effective
and same as your heal you will need a good one .
im not even fully satisfied with my 140 ee heal


Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 10 2010 06:58pm)
lol?
Why do you own that sexy ee mana sword then?




guards cant use swords nub
i bought it for my hybrid sword set-up i wanna eventually complete.


Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 10 2010 06:56pm)
ok well lmk if you have any int scales.
I think im going for rogue, here is why:
-more def then mage
-more dex then mage
-waaaay more cheaper gear
-i would only need lvl 25 int wep and armor and lvl 55 int wep and armor(and maybe smth in between)
-heals are usable for other chars
-ee charms are cheap

but:
-i migh have low dex
-lower succes rate then a hybrid

but if my rogue sucks:
the int wep and armor will be hard to sell since its pretty much useless to anyone who isnt as crazy as me.
I will use the heals on my gaurd i will make if my rogue sucks.
And i will resell the ee charms


um dex wont help you imo against well monmsters at high levels on a caster if you ask me int will.
mana poolwill be garbage for a caster rogue not too mention your low int will be crap for your ehals and dmg

This post was edited by diablostoner on Mar 10 2010 06:04pm
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Mar 10 2010 06:01pm
Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 11:58am)
lol?
Why do you own that sexy ee mana sword then?


:rofl: since when does a Guard use a sword?
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Mar 10 2010 06:03pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 10 2010 07:01pm)
:rofl: since when does a Guard use a sword?


i wish i would rape sauce dmg and heals if so :D

seriously tho unless you have spent around 5k imo on a hybrid or a low base int catser your gonna be kickin yourself in the ass
just saying :p

i have spet over 5 k on my 55 set -up and am not fully satified with my hybrid weller. could use some better heal more dmg etc
works good tho i barely fail when i well at 55 but theres those wells that do the odd time kick my ass i i wonder how good they coulda been :D

This post was edited by diablostoner on Mar 10 2010 06:08pm
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Mar 10 2010 06:08pm
Quote (diablostoner @ Mar 11 2010 12:03pm)
i wish i would rape sauce dmg and heals if so :D

seriously tho unless you have spent around 5k imo on a hybrid or a low base int catser your gonna be kickin yourself in the ass
just saying :p


My hybrid does well... not as great as yours

Well the Monk does...
13X ee staff
21str/13 int robe (or 29str/10cs robe)
41 HM charm
87 ee focus

Cheap build...
With jesses swords and my caster build now... my heals can reach 390 average @ 55 (using 25HM sword & 41HM charm)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 10 2010 06:09pm
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