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Mar 10 2010 04:48pm
Quote (Cloudfire @ 11 Mar 2010 00:42)
TBH i don't think making a weller with less than ~2k is a good idea these days

hybrids are so expensive and casters need far better gear than they used to

ps. jesse, thanks for the link but its too low-er ee :( i may buy it as a temp though, although i think my 35 may be more effective... i'll think about it


hhmmm
why?
Is casting rly fcked up that hard now?
Cause a rogue with:
45 int wep
45 int armor
120-150ee dmg charm
100-120ee heal charm

would be able to do the job i think?

And does a weller makes back the fg you invested in it?
Not iso an answer like: depends on what you find but own experiances.
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Mar 10 2010 04:53pm
Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 11:48am)
hhmmm
why?
Is casting rly fcked up that hard now?
Cause a rogue with:
45 int wep
45 int armor
120-150ee dmg charm
100-120ee heal charm

would be able to do the job i think?

And does a weller makes back the fg you invested in it?
Not iso an answer like: depends on what you find but own experiances.


Well that should be able to do it pretty well.

If i ever get my mage up to 64 i'm going to try with 31int/32int/150ee/122ee

that int gear will cost a heap (its stupidly expensive now) and theres a big difference between 100 and 120ee heals as far as price goes

When i had my weller up i never found anything worth more than about 20fg. but you'll almost certainly make it back with time

This post was edited by Cloudfire on Mar 10 2010 04:54pm
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Quote (Cloudfire @ 11 Mar 2010 00:53)
Well that should be able to do it pretty well.

If i ever get my mage up to 64 i'm going to try with 31int/32int/150ee/122ee

that int gear will cost a heap (its stupidly expensive now) and theres a big difference between 100 and 120ee heals as far as price goes

When i had my weller up i never found anything worth more than about 20fg. but you'll almost certainly make it back with time


aight. Well since Imgoing with a rogue. I will have higher life and defence, also since I will wear scales/leathers and clubs or w/e i will be spending allot less then on a mage. I will also have more dex so less crit dmg and more crits. The only problem is I will have lower int a d lower mana. And I'm doubting if my mana wouldn't be too low.
If I'm like 400 mana short every well it will not be much of a problem since Ill then just get an item with +mana.
But if Im like 1k mana short every well im pretty much fcked xD.
Especially since the eq im buying is very hard to sell
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Mar 10 2010 05:04pm
Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 10:48am)
hhmmm
why?
Is casting rly fcked up that hard now?
Cause a rogue with:
45 int wep
45 int armor
120-150ee dmg charm
100-120ee heal charm

would be able to do the job i think?

And does a weller makes back the fg you invested in it?
Not iso an answer like: depends on what you find but own experiances.


That would be only good for a Mage/Warlock setup... not a rogue/pally/monk/ninja etc...
So you are talking about alot of fg there...

For melee/healer hybrid... that would suit pally/ninja/monk/rogue

So back to basics:

EE weapon
HM Armor
HM Charm
EE Heal charm

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 10 2010 05:07pm
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Mar 10 2010 05:05pm
in 10 solo climb/welling i've found about 2k worth drops..well i can surely say i was lucky :P

failed again, so this mage will be the weller which stays at lvl65 with 10extra stats(650 mana woohoo!) and decent proficency

on the side, which class will be good to climb as solo, pure melee?(need to sell climbing gear and change gear) or another caster with my gears. throw me any idea, i will happily accept any advice

e:not really have to be solo though ;)

This post was edited by ragnarka on Mar 10 2010 05:07pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 11 Mar 2010 01:04)
That would be only good for a Mage/Warlock setup... not a rogue/pally/monk/ninja etc...
So you are talking about alot of fg there...

For melee/healer hybrid... that would suit pally/ninja/monk/rogue


hhhhm so you're saying i should go melee/heal?
Since i would then need:
ee wep
hm armor
hm charm
ee heal
and that is way more expensive imo :p
i would be better of making a gaurdian if i choose this one. Since thwy can wear heavy armors.
But how should i stat?
Si ce with a caster rogue i will go pure int
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Quote (ragnarka @ Mar 11 2010 11:05am)
in 10 solo climb/welling i've found about 2k worth drops..well i can surely say i was lucky :P

failed again, so this mage will be the weller which stays at lvl65 with 10extra stats(650 mana woohoo!) and decent proficency

on the side, which class will be good to climb as solo, pure melee?(need to sell climbing gear and change gear) or another caster with my gears. throw me any idea, i will happily accept any advice


create a character based on the gear you have available...
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Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 11:07am)
hhhhm so you're saying i should go melee/heal?
Since i would then need:
ee wep
hm armor
hm charm
ee heal
and that is way more expensive imo :p
i would be better of making a gaurdian if i choose this one. Since thwy can wear heavy armors.
But how should i stat?
Si ce with a caster rogue i will go pure int


Well... definately go for Guard... :lol:
Trev can answer those for you
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Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 11 2010 11:12am)
hhhm so you think hybrid gaurd> caster rogue?

Because the gaurd is way more expensive xD


Think of it this way...
Invest in something that works at a reasonable price

Do not invest in something and find out it is an utter fail and then you have to invest again.
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Other way to think of it...

Guard works... so around 85-99% successful welling... thus giving you a 10% increased chance of a return for funds invested

Rogue works... but only around 70-75% succussfully... thus giving you less % chance of a return in funds you invested.



This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 10 2010 05:20pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 11 Mar 2010 01:09)
create a character based on the gear you have available...
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Well... definately go for Guard... :lol:
Trev can answer those for you


hhhm so you think hybrid gaurd> caster rogue?

Because the gaurd is way more expensive xD
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Mar 10 2010 05:29pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 11 Mar 2010 01:09)
create a character based on the gear you have available...
___________



Well... definately go for Guard... :lol:
Trev can answer those for you
_______________



Think of it this way...
Invest in something that works at a reasonable price

Do not invest in something and find out it is an utter fail and then you have to invest again.
___________

Other way to think of it...

Guard works... so around 85-99% successful welling... thus giving you a 10% increased chance of a return for funds invested

Rogue works... but only around 70-75% succussfully... thus giving you less % chance of a return in funds you invested.


hhhhm thats a good point of view. I might make both.
Start with the rogue to gain some fg and when I think i need smth better i will buy hm armor ee wep en hm charm.
Since i will already have the heals.

Also: how mich mana does a rogue gain per lvl? Is that the same at all chars?
Because rogues have 35 les int then mages.

And should i go with pure str on the gaurd?
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Mar 10 2010 05:32pm
do not go pure str if you plan on healing. healers need INT, that I do know. how much is greatly debatable. some say 70, some say max it, some say 100, some say log off jsp and never return (ignore those last people)

Quote (M0nk3yL0rd0 @ Mar 10 2010 06:34pm)
hhhhm ok.

What is you opinion on the rogu vs th gaurd?


well me personally i would do rogue, they have nicer stats for hybrid, but i also have plenty of rogue usable gear at my disposal so that weighs on my decision.

i would have to hybrid though because i dont have damage charm nor do i have int gear. just melee stuff.

e: i do have some swords with heal mastery that you can use, they would help you in catacombs at least if you were trying to be the healer, none have EE but they can still help. i will check to see if i have any INT stuff too.

This post was edited by jlhromeo on Mar 10 2010 05:39pm
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