I think it depends on the skill. For multistrike, I bet the answer is obviously No. It would be way to unbalanced.

I would assume one multistrike attack = one normal attack in regards to proficiency

anyone wnna climb?

iso +3

and u guys completed mm last night?

me + zero

This post was edited by viet_boi_1994 on May 4 2011 09:42am

no...

i've gotten 5 prof points from a multicast before, 5 from a multiheal,

4 from a multistrike on headhunter

each hit you do on a monster has a chance to roll as one proficiency point
(It's just rare to get more than 1 point per wave)





This post was edited by dpaules on May 4 2011 10:28am

Well he said that this is the most prof he has ever gotten on a melee climb and he was letting em fly lower than usual. Also i saw 2 profs from 1 multi strike the other day, dave says he has seen 5?


Also, that would mean that i was clicking like 20% more than nick w/o abilitys...im pretty sure thats a false statement

This post was edited by WeebleWoble on May 4 2011 11:06am

all I know is it was more than 1 point, and not more than 5 that I saw the one time, so somewhere between 2 and 4,

but you and I both know that you can get more than 1 point from a multistrike or multicast, which supports the notion that each hit on a monster has a chance to roll as a proficiency point

And that's what Nick has been up too..

All I'm saying is you can't have an accurate test without ALSO doing the same test without using abilities. Try it

Dave, your not thinking of all the possibilities that could affect this. there are way too many variables that could be at play here. A test WITHOUT abilities must be done first to support any other test using abilities. Now correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me Nick is trying to argue Swords get more prof than Daggers? By the little experiment that was already done between those two, you can not derive such assumptions from it concerning prof gain and weapon used without covering all the bases first. It would be very premature to do so using that one test without exploring all possibilities involved. For example...

Here is some more food for thought. The way it seem to me is.... What if the game is programmed to give less proficiency from abilities (or less chance to roll a proficiency point) depending on the percentage you use your ability at? This would be to prevent prof farming by simply constantly attacking at low charges. Since Nick uses his charges very low, he may be rolling a much smaller chance for prof, or no roll at all. Otherwise, prof would be easy to obtain just casting your abilities at 10% or whatever. That is why Nick is gaining less prof point than Wes, because I guarantee, judging by the actions, Wes is not shooting off his abilities as low as Nick is. Who knows, but your current prof rank may have a small influence on prof gain too, you never know. Hell, the character class may have an effect on it too (similar to Exp bonus' per class). Best way to test, is do a baseline test, it would be two characters, with no prof, no abilities, same class, same amount of actions. I guarantee the results would be equal no matter what weapon is used.

There is too many variables and chances trying to derive a solid number and solid results from such an experiment using abilities. I'm pretty sure if this test was done on an even playing field with no abilities (hell even no profs) iit would be equal. Test it out.

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on May 4 2011 03:46pm

where did I say that you were wrong Jim? All I said was that you can get more than 1 prof point from a multistrike, I never said that it always happens, but that there is a chance for it (possibility of getting more than 1 proficiency point from multiattack) to happen, based on what I have seen from experience

I don't need to think through all the possibilities to tell you something that I have seen from experience (getting more than 1 point from a multistrike). For that matter, I don't care about all the possibilities of getting more than one point, all I know is that you can get more than 1 point.

All I was saying was that those who said "you CANNOT get more than 1 point", are wrong.

Sometimes you will get no points at all from a multistrike, sometimes 1, sometimes 2, etc.

If you want Jim, we can talk on vent instead of having to do it on here.

This post was edited by dpaules on May 4 2011 05:36pm