On these your typically looking for

Low req base (dagger)
5str
2os


As I told you weeks ago in pm.. this is just a basic 2wc weapon worth 1-5fg on a good day


88dex base, no str, 1sock

This post was edited by ThePinkPanther on Feb 4 2026 01:30pm

How am I aggressive? Come on bud, we're many saying the same. You're in denial, don't understand pvp rules and it's ok bud.

some people may want to play around with weaken curse, not everyone duel by the book 100% of the time

still haven't heard of the reason why weaken should be banned if it's not so strong? or is it so strong that it is considered bm?

again, that's because you think precasting any curse is bm because you follow the rules to a tee without questioning it.

like you said, if weaken isn't that strong in lld, then why should it be banned?

something should be banned if it imbalances the game for example decrepify, if a curse is weak like weaken (pun intended) then why should it banned?

This post was edited by losm on Feb 4 2026 01:35pm

In LLD, you need to maximize useful mods from an item because you're very limited stats/skill points wise. Weaken is not useful.
Also, lld is a small community fully GM. No bm in lld lol. Casting curses from charges is bm, lld mld hld, always has been, always will be bm.
Now you have people playing LLD telling you it's not good, worth or useful.

This post was edited by TheArt0fWar on Feb 4 2026 01:36pm

You haven't answered why casting a "useless" curse from charges is bm? Just because a old rule says so?

You keep saying weaken is not useful, then why should it be banned? Something should only be banned if it imbalances the game. If it doesn't imbalanced the game, it shouldn't be banned.

So what is true, is it so strong that it should be banned or is it useless so that it should be allowed?

This post was edited by losm on Feb 4 2026 01:47pm

Your welcome to start a lld community that agrees with you that rules are useless.. id happily come bm sounds fun ngl.. this wc weapon would still be useless because 1 soc no str bit still bm lld could be a trip

This post was edited by ThePinkPanther on Feb 4 2026 01:52pm

the stinky chicken bone

I'm not saying rules are useless, most lld rules make sense. I'm saying if a rule doesn't make sense then it should be changed.

A blanket rule that says all precast curse is bm is not necessarily a good one.

Is weaken so strong that it should be banned or is it not that strong that it should be allowed? Is the question.

The lld community is not very large. And pretty much 99% of anyone involved knows the rules. The 1% who don’t won’t be casting weaken. They’ll be casting amp, or decrepify if they want to be bm.

If I wanted to be bm I would not be casting weaken. It’s just not that good.