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Apr 16 2012 04:49pm
Im new here, but i've found that in the past there have been many Graphic General chats, and they've all been closed.
I don't really understand why, it was supporting the Section and it was always thriving.

I've read the rules and I do not see where it says "No making a General chat in a sub section"
In fact it follows rules
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3. No spamming or trolling. All topics and replies must be on topic and relevant to the discussion content and sub-forum it is created under.


So now I leave it up to the people of D2jsp, I suppose.
The Thread causes no harm, and it was usually always on topic.

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Apr 16 2012 04:58pm
Read the last posts here:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61830431&f=258
and here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61827020&f=105&p=413652692

The problem was that it was completely off topic. If you look at the last three 25 post pages/last 75 posts of the thread, you can see for yourself.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48984862&f=105&o=47425


Quote (FloraFreak @ Apr 16 2012 06:59pm)
Why is that a problem?
Quote (OpimusPat @ Apr 16 2012 07:00pm)
Have you been to the General Chat? None the less it was a place where artist/designers could talk to each other and not be terribly trolled.
Quote (humari @ Apr 16 2012 07:18pm)
who cares if it wasnt about gfx, its not like people were posting in there to increase their post count



If it's not on topic/on forum, it's spam. Anything NOT about GFX in there would be spam.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=9
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No spamming or trolling. All topics and replies must be on topic and relevant to the discussion content and sub-forum it is created under.


This post was edited by RaveTheGo on Apr 16 2012 05:27pm
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Quote (RaveTheGo @ Apr 16 2012 06:58pm)
Read the last posts here:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61830431&f=258
and here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61827020&f=105&p=413652692

The problem was that it was completely off topic.  If you look at the last three 25 post pages/last 75 posts of the thread, you can see for yourself.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48984862&f=105&o=47425


Quote (RaveTheGo @ Apr 16 2012 06:58pm)
Read the last posts here:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61830431&f=258
and here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61827020&f=105&p=413652692

The problem was that it was completely off topic.  If you look at the last three 25 post pages/last 75 posts of the thread, you can see for yourself.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48984862&f=105&o=47425


Why is that a problem?
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Apr 16 2012 05:00pm
Quote (RaveTheGo @ Apr 16 2012 06:58pm)
Read the last posts here:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61830431&f=258
and here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61827020&f=105&p=413652692

The problem was that it was completely off topic.  If you look at the last three 25 post pages/last 75 posts of the thread, you can see for yourself.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48984862&f=105&o=47425


Have you been to the General Chat? None the less it was a place where artist/designers could talk to each other and not be terribly trolled.
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Apr 16 2012 05:14pm
edit: whatever. i'm fed up with this shit.

This post was edited by feored on Apr 16 2012 05:19pm
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Apr 16 2012 05:18pm
who cares if it wasnt about gfx, its not like people were posting in there to increase their post count
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Apr 16 2012 05:45pm
Rules are broken all the time, but this should be an exception.


Does this belong here? almost every post off topic, but I assume because its a Medi that its okay.

This post was edited by OpimusPat on Apr 16 2012 05:45pm
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Apr 16 2012 05:46pm
I made the same suggestion and my thread got closed.
Hopefully yours will stay open.
Voted to allow it ofc.



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In the past, the Graphic Design sub-forum contained a sanctioned "General Chat" thread where frequent visitors to the sub-forum (and new members, to a lesser degree) could chat about things that would otherwise be considered off-topic or require a separate thread.

Members of this sub-forum used the topic extensively, and before the last one was closed, it reached over 4000 pages.

Recently, all attempts at creating a general chat thread have failed , prompting users of the subforum to post a flood of topics that have been closed as spam.
As it turns out, the General Chat thread actually reduces spam in the sub-forum by giving memebers of the graphic design community a single, unified space to communicate.

Granted, there is a General Chat forum, but the Graphic Design section is something of a community, and we would much prefer to have our own thread to discuss topics of interest.
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Apr 16 2012 05:49pm
Quote (MidnightRider @ Apr 16 2012 07:46pm)
I made the same suggestion and my thread got closed.
Hopefully yours will stay open.
Voted to allow it ofc.


Thanks mate, and here is another good point of why it should be kept open.
Its a place where new members like myself can interact with other people here, the people seemed to be kinder and less caring to a new guy asking a noobish question, compared to ask in a entire new thread.

Of course there should be rules to it, im not saying it would be total anarchy, rave you just have to see it through a Graphic users eye.
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Apr 16 2012 06:04pm
Quote (OpimusPat @ Apr 16 2012 07:45pm)
Rules are broken all the time, but this should be an exception.


Does this belong here? almost every post off topic, but I assume because its a Medi that its okay.


Not almost every post. People do post their life questions there, and the topic maker PMs them. He bumps the topic by quoting RewTheBrave's post about not spamming. I see that quite a few of the posts are off topic, but not even 50%, and definitely not all. Because most of the discussion is done via PM for privacy, you do not see a large portion of the on-topic mentoring.
I can see posts on every page that are relevant to the thread. If you see spam posts, report them. The reason it was closed in Graphics Design was because the entire community was posting off-topic things there, and because it is NOT a chat forum, just a graphics design forum. General chat is for general discussions/threads that don't belong in other places. That's just about the only place it could go.
Quote (MidnightRider @ Apr 16 2012 07:46pm)
I made the same suggestion and my thread got closed.
Hopefully yours will stay open.
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In the past, the Graphic Design sub-forum contained a sanctioned "General Chat" thread where frequent visitors to the sub-forum (and new members, to a lesser degree) could chat about things that would otherwise be considered off-topic or require a separate thread.

Members of this sub-forum used the topic extensively, and before the last one was closed, it reached over 4000 pages.

Recently, all attempts at creating a general chat thread have failed , prompting users of the subforum to post a flood of topics that have been closed as spam.
As it turns out, the General Chat thread actually reduces spam in the sub-forum by giving memebers of the graphic design community a single, unified space to communicate.

Granted, there is a General Chat forum, but the Graphic Design section is something of a community, and we would much prefer to have our own thread to discuss topics of interest.

Voted to allow it ofc.


About that quoted text: If Graphics users used the thread for 'topics of interest' that were related to graphics, it would be still up. Posts about completely different things should be in general chat. It wouldn't be fair if one group of people had a 'random discussion thread' that was only about their lives/things that happened in it, it has to be only Graphics, otherwise it belongs in a different sub-forum or General Chat.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48984862&f=105&o=47425
Discussions I see in the last 75 posts (3x 25 post pages):
  • Suspensions
  • Hobos
  • Headphones
  • Sunglasses
  • Genitals
  • Guild Wars
  • Cupcakes
  • Peanut Butter
  • Various Foods
  • Alcohol
  • Phone Discussions
  • Deals on certain items
  • Youtube Videos
  • Being bored

I Only see ONE post about Graphics, which is a user asking others in the thread to rate it.
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