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Apr 20 2011 07:57am
Despite Act5 essentially be a non-issue for several years now, there are still Act 5 socketed items lingering on Non-Ladder Classic. FEEL FREE TO STOP READING HERE IF YOU ONLY PLAY EXPAC AND HAVE NEVER PLAYED CLASSIC OR OTHERWISE GENERALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Anyway, these items exist despite the fact that much like old prepatch dupes that also should not exist, and were created via another exploit.

The difference is that old commonly known dupes and prepatch items are allowed to be traded on classic. It is long overdue for the trade rules be loosened a bit for collectors to openly trade Act 5 Socketed items on classic.

If the mods think there is some still as of yet unpatched exploit still allowing Act 5 socketing on classic I would like to see proof/evidence of this, as surely there would be public baal runs again on classic as well as ladder socketed uniques again continuing to pop up on ladder (again)

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You may not trade these items!

Items that should not spawn but still exist due to hacks/exploits:

    * Socketed Non-magic Armors
    * Socketed Unique Items
    * Socketed Set Items
    * Socketed Magic Armor - Body Armor, Helms, and Shields
    * Socketed Magic Weapons above ilvl30 - not created with http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml:
          o 3 Standard Gems (normal) and 1 Socketed Weapon (Any Type) = 1 Socketed Magic Weapon (of same type)
            This takes a socketed weapon and makes it a magic socketed weapon with a random number of sockets. This allows you to get new magic bonuses on an otherwise non magical weapon. The original weapon properties will be removed (rerolled) when the new weapon is created. ilvl = 30. It gets 1-2 sockets.
          o 3 Chipped Gems + 1 Magic Weapon = Socketed Magic Weapon
            This adds sockets to a magic weapon. The original magic weapon properties will be removed (rerolled) when the new weapon is created. If you use this formula with a weapon that is not normally socketed such as a Javelin, this recipe will create a new magical weapon without any sockets. ilvl=25 magic weapon with 1-2 sockets.
          o 3 Flawless Gems + 1 Magic Weapon = Socketed Magic Weapon
            This adds sockets to a magic weapon. The original magic weapon properties will be removed (rerolled) when the new weapon is created. If you use this formula with a weapon that is not normally socketed such as a Javelin, this recipe will create a new magical weapon without any sockets. ilvl=30 magic weapon with 1-2 sockets.

Items that can not be found:

    * Runes - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runes.shtml
    * Runewords - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords.shtml
    * Elite Items - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/weaponsandarmor.shtml#elite
    * Exceptional and Elite Uniques - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/uniques.shtml
    * Charms - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/charms.shtml
    * Circlets - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/circlets.shtml
    * Jewels - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/jewels.shtml
    * Crafted Items - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/crafteditems.shtml
    * LoD Sets - http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/sets/
    * Class specific items [Class Only]
    * Ethereal items

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#2
Apr 20 2011 08:00am
Add a poll :headscratch:

But yes, I don't see how this is a problem since ( for example )1.08 items are legal to trade with and 98% of them are unperm

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Apr 20 2011 08:13am
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Add a poll :headscratch:

But yes, I don't see how this is a problem since ( for example )1.08 items are legal to trade with and 98% of them are unperm


There's honestly so few classic players left these days what with all of the bots running on classic now, that I doubt anyone would really vote. The rule is simply one that is nonsensical even if it was posted by a Guildy of mine.

The last time I suggested it, I was pmed and informed that allegedly there were still people in act 5 after the patch (this was a couple of years ago) - since then there has not been an influx of Act 5 socketed items, there has not been any Baal running on classic - and there have been folks periodically flaunting the rules by including Act 5 items in their NL trading lists.
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Apr 20 2011 08:56am
allow it, they are permanent items in the game, why not. I know i got a couple around still, and people trade these items all the time anyways, and nothing is done about them.
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Apr 20 2011 10:17am
please note: I am not endorsing the use of those exploits that created these items. Many people have done item for item trades on realm, and even picked them up off of the ground when there was a brief scare/report that people were being banned, or converted to expac for using the exploit.

Regardless of how one obtained the items they should be allowed to be traded - for one there is no means of discerning how rares were socketed during this time as well - so in effect some Act 5 items are openly traded...

Obviously some people have noted the addition of the poll as well.
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Apr 21 2011 04:18am
do site suggestions have limits to daily bumps? no bumps at all? I only saw the one sticky.

I'd also love to see some discussion as to why they should continue to be not allowed on classic trading. I suspect that for the most part the no votes are from people that don't even play classic, don't have such items - as I doubt there are any "purists" that don't have any common dupes and/or other items that benefited from various exploits over the past decade.

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Apr 21 2011 07:40pm
Quote (IridescentPIG @ Apr 20 2011 09:57am)
Despite Act5 essentially be a non-issue for several years now, there are still Act 5 socketed items lingering on Non-Ladder Classic.  FEEL FREE TO STOP READING HERE IF YOU ONLY PLAY EXPAC AND HAVE NEVER PLAYED CLASSIC OR OTHERWISE GENERALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.  Anyway, these items exist despite the fact that much like old prepatch dupes that also should not exist, and were created via another exploit.

The difference is that old commonly known dupes and prepatch items are allowed to be traded on classic.  It is long overdue for the trade rules be loosened a bit for collectors to openly trade Act 5 Socketed items on classic.


The similarity with prepatch dupes is a fair consideration - both are relatively safe to the buyer, and the exploit is no longer available (as far as I know) so it does not directly encourage cheaters. Fair enough to consider them the same as prepatch dupes on NL now.
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#8
Apr 23 2011 06:19am
I Agree in allowing Act5 Items in NON-Ladder. The past use of that exploit is really no different than the exploits used to dupe, and the Act5 sockets will not "poof",
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#9
Apr 23 2011 06:21am
Why not.
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#10
Apr 23 2011 07:09am
For it.
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