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Jun 30 2010 12:43pm
Im going clean this up from the last topic (closed for spam).

My idea is on this page. http://forums.d2jsp.org/staff.php?g=20, or http://forums.d2jsp.org/staff.php?g=25 the mod's page, having a star sytem like the voting for pictures in the public photos section..

The system.
5 stars system.
1 Vote per person/ per mod.
Nothing else. Very simple and non-complex.

My idea behind this is making a way for the general public to rate our mods.. helpfull or not, this would relive some pressures from the upper modding staff and let them see general conceptions of the mods running the site. It would also allow people express when a mod has done good things/ or screwed you over. ( i understand people feel the mods are 100% correct always, but theres a chance they are not and we should be able to freely un-inhibtedly express when a mod has wronged a member)

Ok for some of the things alrady brought up.

For the hates of mods- yes there would be people who activly try to knock the mods(as there already are).. but equaly there are enough people on jsp who would love a extra chance to kiss up to the mods. My idea suggests that for every hater.. theres gota be one brown-noser.
Cracking down on scammers/multis would help reslove this. The less multis/scammers on the site.. the less likly people are going to rage on the mods.

As for Stars(donors) people only being able to vote. I think there shoud be some sort of time, after 2 months on JSP, you would then be able to vote on mods.. get some time to get used to how things work.


Now I dont mean this just to effect the mods negitivly, I feel the trusted and other people working there way up the mod list would also benifit from this.

This would basicly just give an overall perception of the mods and how they are doing from the public viewpoint. Not to slander them.. but to give you an idea who is helping the general public and who is just sitting on a tag doing the minumal to get by.

As for the mods that work behind the scences... thats what the other moderators/paul is for.. to make sure the site itself runs properly, but as for the trade mods, trade assiansts ect, it would be nice to have some way to rate them.. The mods behind the scences would be reconized by the other mods.. and woudlnt get bad ratings because they arnt interacting with the people on a day-to-day basis.. the mods who get ratings would be the mods who have interactions with the public. The mods who assist in trades, controling spam, ect.

To go along with this i feel the mod who is charge of this type of complants (_monk) should have some sort of public opinion to go by and overall of what the people think of the mod. This would let him know easly when people are just mad over a warn/suspen/ban/ignoreance, ect. a 4-5 star rated mod probly wasnt able to help.. or did the best the situation called for.. this would be expressed in the high star rating.. where as a mod whos star seems to continuisly drop, could be review and understood as to why the people dont like him/her.. if he/she is a hard ass w/e then the mods could accuratly get a since of everyones feelings on the mod and make accurate decision better informed then the current system(witch i have no clue how works ill admit.. but i know theres no real way to express safly that you feel a mod is slacking on this site)



Thanks for reading i tried to include a bit, i hope everyone takes the time to read this. Last topic was closed due to off topic spam.. so keep it on topic. The rating of mods Yes/No. :D thanks (give reason why you voted the way you did.)

Thanks!

This post was edited by Grimdayz on Jun 30 2010 12:58pm
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Jun 30 2010 01:49pm
I was in favor of the idea before...but

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For the hates of mods- yes there would be people who activly try to knock the mods(as there already are).. but equaly there are enough people on jsp who would love a extra chance to kiss up to the mods. My idea suggests that for every hater.. theres gota be one brown-noser.


That line makes me now against it. So no.
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Jun 30 2010 01:56pm
Quote (Valorcide @ Jun 30 2010 12:49pm)
I was in favor of the idea before...but



That line makes me now against it. So no.


yea it was a side i had to tell.. it was brought up many people would just hate on the mods, the idea behind that stement is the balnces of haters and lovers. :P

May i ask what about it makes you say no? Or is there a better way i could word it?

hence the stars.. there would be no Flame.. or hate msges.. simplely how effective was that mod at helping you with your situation. Or when a mod goes out their way to help yea, you have a way to publicly note it. Same with the reverse :D

I do guess i worded that line poorly. It was more to appeal to the masses who said people would openly flame the mods. Hard to flame stars :P and once ur votes casted its over.. and i semi feel the balance of haters/lovers would balance out the votes and over time this would really hone in ratings.. at first it would be scattered but as the voteing increses so does the accuracy of the results.

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Jun 30 2010 02:22pm
Quote (Grimdayz @ Jun 30 2010 02:56pm)
yea it was a side i had to tell.. it was brought up many people would just hate on the mods, the idea behind that stement is the balnces of haters and lovers. :P

May i ask what about it makes you say no?  Or is there a better way i could word it? 

hence the stars.. there would be no Flame.. or hate msges.. simplely how effective was that mod at helping you with your situation. Or when a mod goes out their way to help yea, you have a way to publicly note it. Same with the reverse :D

I do guess i worded that line poorly. It was more to appeal to the masses who said people would openly flame the mods. Hard to flame stars :P and once ur votes casted its over..  and i semi feel the balance of haters/lovers would balance out the votes and over time this would really hone in ratings.. at first it would be scattered but as the voteing increses so does the accuracy of the results.

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Read my post in the last topic and see what you think. I don't think it should it should be like the photo gallery, rather it should be fully moderated to prevent votes from people who are just sucking up or trying to get back at mods, and only accept votes from people with valid opinions on why they're voting how they are.
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Jun 30 2010 02:22pm
Your last thread was closed because it won't happen, not because of spam. That just happens to be the infraction that the mod chose when closing it.
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Jun 30 2010 02:28pm
Quote (Valorcide @ Jun 30 2010 01:22pm)
Read my post in the last topic and see what you think. I don't think it should it should be like the photo gallery, rather it should be fully moderated to prevent votes from people who are just sucking up or trying to get back at mods, and only accept votes from people with valid opinions on why they're voting how they are.


So your down for the concept? just gota work out the bugs sorta? :P

I get this completely.. maybe after sum1 gets a warn or somthing they cant vote for a week or somting.. or people with 10% warn cant vote period. The time frame thing would limit people from making multis to just vote down mods.. but I think older more repsected member should have some say in how the mods are doing their jobs.

Also note in no way would a mod lose there status just because of bad reviews. That would take a lot more. But it would give the moderation team a chance to see what type of person best works out for jsp;s benifit.

Maybe a mod review is a better way to word it.. Not a rating.. but a Review from the peers of the site who used the mods services.

Maybe a specific area where the mods can send you to.. to review/rate their preformace when they have assisted in a trade, spam, ect.

Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jun 30 2010 01:22pm)
Your last thread was closed because it won't happen, not because of spam. That just happens to be the infraction that the mod chose when closing it.



my last topic was closed due to Spam. Paul has seen this and let it stay up.. witch to me would say its somthing not completly outa the question. (i brought my personal issue into the chat on the last post.. thats not being done here im trying to follow the rules, and make a productive post that might one day lead to somthing.)

Quote (Valorcide @ Jun 30 2010 01:32pm)
The goal of it should be not to have it be a popularity contest, but to provide honest, unbiased feedback on the leaders of this site based solely on their responsiblity, actions, and attitude. Something like this would require moderation to weed out votes from certain groups of people.


This would be the goal.. and it would take some effort to set-up help maintain and so forth but it could be a very usfull tool to put more of the jsp community at ease about getting warns for imporper actions and would help to make meds feel more apperciated about what they do from the general public here at jsp.

Quote (Padme @ Jun 30 2010 01:34pm)
no since the Multi of the Multi of the Multi of the Multi will low rate

Post count/ Timeframe limits would help null this.

Also the crackdown of multis/scammers would assist in keeping the votes clean and honest...

This post was edited by Grimdayz on Jun 30 2010 02:38pm
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Quote (Grimdayz @ Jun 30 2010 03:28pm)
So your down for the concept? just gota work out the bugs sorta? :P

I get this completely.. maybe after sum1 gets a warn or somthing they cant vote for a week or somting.. or people with 10% warn cant vote period. The time frame thing would limit people from making multis to just vote down mods.. but I think older more repsected member should have some say in how the mods are doing their jobs.

Also note in no way would a mod lose there status just because of bad reviews. That would take a lot more. But it would give the moderation team a chance to see what type of person best works out for jsp;s benifit.

Maybe a mod review is a better way to word it.. Not a rating.. but a Review from the peers of the site who used the mods services.

Maybe a specific area where the mods can send you to.. to review/rate their preformace when they have assisted in a trade, spam, ect.




my last topic was closed due to Spam.  Paul has seen this and let it stay up.. witch to me would say its somthing not completly outa the question.


The goal of it should be not to have it be a popularity contest, but to provide honest, unbiased feedback on the leaders of this site based solely on their responsiblity, actions, and attitude. Something like this would require moderation to weed out votes from certain groups of people.
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Jun 30 2010 02:34pm
no since the Multi of the Multi of the Multi of the Multi will low rate
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Jun 30 2010 02:59pm
Quote (Padme @ Jun 30 2010 03:34pm)
no since the Multi of the Multi of the Multi of the Multi will low rate


this is why the site needs better muti control seems like for every 1 1/2 ppl theres a muti ya i know how do u get 1/2 persons :D if this could be fix thow it would b a very good thing you could make it IP based on the 1 vote thing yes this would take ppl out who have family that also use jsp but it would fix it you get one vote from your ip and ur acct idk just a idea

Quote (Valorcide @ Jun 30 2010 03:32pm)
The goal of it should be not to have it be a popularity contest, but to provide honest, unbiased feedback on the leaders of this site based solely on their responsiblity, actions, and attitude. Something like this would require moderation to weed out votes from certain groups of people.


yes this is 100% right its not a popularity contest yes u will have those suck ups and the haters but the thing is for the suck ups the mods wont know who voted for them that will cut down on that some and well haters gonna hate right?

Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jun 30 2010 03:22pm)
Your last thread was closed because it won't happen, not because of spam. That just happens to be the infraction that the mod chose when closing it.


i really dont understand why it is not a good idea i mean every bug can b worked out of it yes some ppl will miss use it but alot wont i think its something that should b given a try if it floops well then it dose and drop it
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Jun 30 2010 03:05pm
Valid point.
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