For a long time now, JSP users who choose to scam in-game have been posted about in the Scammer Accusations forum.
They continuously get off the hook because it "was not a JSP trade" and so on.

Go take a look at the Scammer Accusations forum, and count up how many topics are closed because of this reason, even though the accused uses JSP, even to the extent of messaging their victim through PM's.
They know nothing can be done to punish them at the moment, so these types of cases are growing.
This includes allegations of accounts being stolen, guber games, and the like.

The list of reasons this could be beneficial to the JSP community is a long one.

I'm proposing that with sufficient proof, these users should be locked and scammer tagged.
If a person has the motive to scam in-game, how can they be trusted on JSP? Should we let known scammers roam our forums freely, continuing to scam under the veil of the "It wasn't a JSP Trade" protection?
I don't think we should.

Of course, you would need enough proof confirming that their Diablo account is known as that JSP users account, and more rules and qualifications for this to work. But with enough fine tuning, I think this could be extremely beneficial to the JSP Community and help keep our honest users safe from scammers.

I have seen certain people get locked and scammer tagged for in-game reasons in the past, for example:
FoA who admitted to scamming another uses entire necromancer. Although there was no JSP trade, he got locked and scammer tagged with the screen shot of him admitting guilt.
There have also been several users who were locked/scammer tagged for scamming Uber games, with screenshots provided of them smiting the game.

These are just a few examples of justice, and prevented those users from using JSP as a tool to find their victims and carry out their next scam.

I haven't voted yet. Seems like a good idea though. Provide a few examples please. This would take a lot more proof a jsper did it though. How would you prove the jspers account was the scamming one though?

If there's a good way to proof it, yes

True I'm trying to think of a few god examples, I remember when Diablo-Clone was locked/scammed for an uber game, the evidence against him was a pile of a few screenshots with him on his account smiting the game after someone made him mad (on purpose, to tempt him to steal the torch) and promptly took screenshots of him doing so.

As for FoA's case, he was so well known on his Diablo 2 account and character, that all it took to lock him was someone screen shotting him saying in-game something along the lines of "lol yea, i stole (whatever his name was) 's necro" and this user is now locked/scammer tagged because of that.

I'll think of another good example soon and update the thread

There isn't really any good way to link the scammer's in game account with a d2jsp account is there? The in game scammer could simply be lying about his JSP name. You would practically need a ss of the JSP user saying that they are indeed the in game scammer

Or s/s of past trades with the person on the account. It is possible to prove the person is a scammer, it would just be very hard.

Edit: let me know if i need to explain this clearer. (I'm a little off today)

This post was edited by purplehaze123 on Nov 27 2009 05:08pm

yes it's definitely going to be difficult, and I would imagine actual cases where users get locked for this are going to be rare since the proof is harder to come by than JSP scams




I believe this could work

No proof = no lock.

Even in game trades have resulted in a lock with sufficient proof.

IE, proof that it is the user in game and not some random person claiming to be them. (that requires extensive PMs)

In short, when trading, make sure the ot her person pms you their in game information, and make sure they state their name in game. Make sure you have screenshots of the actual scam. And that is suffiecient evidence.