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Hello everyone.
This is my 1st time giving a site suggestion so If you don't like my idea please don't flame me.

In the RuneScape section I'd like to see the following Subforums being implemented:

1) Questions
2) Goals & Achievements

Number 1 is fairly straight forward.
This will function similar to the Price Check subforum where people post jobs and others give them a ratio for that job.
This works fairly fast and is pretty convienent, so why won't it work for questions related to RS?

Number 2 (Goals & Achievements) is a bit more complex.

There are 2 alternatives to my idea.

1. Involves users to be able to edit their first post AND topic title.
2. You can only post a second topic if your other one is closed.

Alternative 1:

Within this section users can post ONE topic where they will post all their future goals and goals they have achieved so far. This will be acheived by allowing users to edit their first post and topic title ALL the time. This will put in place to make sure this Subforum stays free of spam and multiple goal topics.

All the typical topics in the general section right now are questions people have or posting a single level.
With this new subforum it will allow users with legit goals to have more recognition for their work (No I'm not saying self-satisfcation doesn't mean anything).
With the new section these "Skill Logs" will no longer be knocked down to the bottom of the forums for things that aren't related to Skill Logs.
It would also be nice for the owner of the thread to be able to delete other users posts or hide them so they do not get closed for spam.

Alternative 2:

I'm not sure if Njaguar is able to allow to edit our first post and/or topic title so this is why I made Alternative 2.
Alternative 2 is basically you are only allowed one Goal & Achievement thread open at one time and before a new one can be made for a new goal etc. the first one MUST be closed.



Reasons For This Idea:

The General Runescape section is meant for discussion on things in-game.
Right now it's being flooded with questions and multiple achievement threads from one person.OR just simply one whole new thread for just ONE level. My point being is that it's chaotic.
There needs to be some sort of organization in the RuneScape section.
It's not NEEDED but it would definitely make it more user-friendly.

The main Runescape Section could still be used for:

Debates
Recent Updates in the game
Drop/Loot
Random quests finished and/or levels recently achieved


Thanks for reading, I hope it's not too long.
Thanks.
Sean.

This post was edited by Darkmouther on Aug 5 2009 01:09am

runescape = full of fail

Then what would the normal "Runescape" be...


unless u want that for discussion of jagex updates.. which will end up in spam

vote yes for 1, then the other can be goals / or questions


.. i neeed my own subforum for questions.

#1 could posisbly be solved by creating a thread/sticky topic instead of a subforum to handle questions. It could even be summarized sometimes and then a new one could be made, carrying with it the "FAQ" developed from the older topics. Since the idea is mostly for price-checking (from what you said), then an updatable price list could become part of the topic. The summary/update part would be post #1 anytime the thread got really big OR if a moderator had the first post, it could be edited. That kind of thing might be possible, but developing a whole subforum for it supposes a really big need for it. The need is big, but I don't know if it's big enough for a thread, let alone a subfoum. But a thread would make more sense, only that it might not be the right fit (might get cluttered, too). I would want to wait a while before making a final decision about supporting #1, but it's interesting and the problem for me would be its scope. Solution = too big for problem, probably.

#2 part I: I don't think it will work. Users can't edit topic titles for a reason. However, an idea that could improve that would be to just make it so an old topic gets closed and a new one gets opened. So part II is much better. But again even if it's common to see those threads, I dont see why a new subforum is needed, especially for part II. Part II might help clean up the area so a subforum isn't needed, actually. Again I think you have a good idea , but the solution = too big for the problem.

Also, is the problem such a problem? Maybe it clutters the landscape of the RS section a bit, but goals threads are a popular staple of the RS forum. Not only that, but they're legit topics when they're made according to the rules about them. But the rules could be tweaked a bit, but for example, the 90+ rule for skill goals helps keep a lot of clutter out. Maybe people would just do better to put all the goals in one thread in the first post instead of in different topics. That's basically the one thread per person idea you had, so we got back around to it. But now without any need for the subforum addition. Rule changes are not as likely as basic minor structural changes, like adding a sticky topic or consdensing basic topics. Most likely from what you said, the biggest rule change could potentially be something like a one (goal) thread per person rule like you mentioned.

I would be interested to see how many RS players support these ideas, but I think the basic objections are now given. I don't think either idea works on its own, and I don't think the problems they solves are really big problems. But I like that you're trying to address something that will get some attention. Some of what you said might be used, just in thread form instead of subforum form. If the problems are really big then your ideas look better, but hard work can fix problems better than making new forums, sometimes. Keep thinking

EDIT: good lord, you meant sticky topics, not subforums, in the suggestion

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Aug 5 2009 12:35pm

Revised Version:

In the RuneScape section I'd like to see the following Stickied thread being implemented:

1) Questions


This could work in two ways:

1) Similar to the Price Check Subforum.
2) A moderator edits the first post every once in a while with updated FAQ's.


Alternative 1:

Everyone posts their questions and other users will answer them.

Alternative 2:

Users will continue on posting their questions in the General RS Forum, and every once in a while a moderator will take a look at these and update the RS FAQ's Sticky.


~General RS Forum~

The rule for this is as followed:
You are only allowed one Goal & Achievement thread open at one time and before a new one can be made for a new goal etc. the first one MUST be closed.


All the typical topics in the general section right now are questions people have or posting a single level.
With this new stickied FAQ thread and Goal & Achievement Thread rule it will allow users with legit goals to have more recognition for their work (No I'm not saying self-satisfcation doesn't mean anything).


New Rules in the RS General Section:

-You cannot post a single level unless it unlocks a new ability and/or feature or is a significant level (ends in a 0 or a 5 OR is level 90+)




Another thing that would help stop the spam is more active mods in the Runescape General section.
However, Rew is doing quite a good job already.

Thanks for reading, I hope it's not too long.
Thanks.
Sean.

This post was edited by Darkmouther on Aug 5 2009 12:43pm

I'm full of fail today.