That they are UBERS/RUSHING/LEVELING what have you. People realize that when they are paying for ubers for someone without a trusted tag they are AT RISK. However, any trade not using a mediator is AT RISK. How is this any different in uber's case?

The site simply does not give out enough trusted tags for everyone making trustworthy ubers. This is the case with MANY traders.

Also I find it ridiculous that a person cannot post a service for free. If someone is giving away a service for free what harm can come of the person who's accepting?

uber's are very hard to know who is actually the person that ended up scamming, they're a big hassle to deal with and if people really believed they are at their own risk why do all of the hosts go spamming "xxx scammed/torched my guber game"

You need to have a trusted tag to offer any service, a free service isn't even a trade either. You aren't required to have a trusted tag to post in In Search Of threads just stick with those.

The issue isn't whether people get scammed or not, because people get scammed regardless. There's no way for people to use a mediator for EVERY trade. In other words, unless you're using a mediator for every fg transaction you are AT RISK. May as well require everyone who wants to trade a trusted tag.

I don't make ubers. I just dislike the fact that some of the site's rules are logically flawed.

Also you deviated from my original point. Why can't people post topics? Because they are at risk to get scammed or scamming someone? lol... that's a pretty weak argument.

This post was edited by celestial1 on Jul 12 2009 05:10am

The g-uber services without a tag used to be allowed but it was flooding the S/A section with to many people complaining about their g-ubers being ruined by someone, in a person to person trade it is much easier to know who is who in the trade that is being done.

What is your original point, people not being allowed to post free services? They are still a service which requires a trusted tag, they are not a trade so they don't belong in the "Trading" Grounds, and I do see plenty of threads where someone is raging about a user that ruined their free g-ubers and wanting them locked for it.

My point is why can't they make a topic because they are hosting ubers or some other service? The s/a will remain the same. You are wrong in that it requires a trusted tag.


http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=12619977&f=169

You're favoring the moderators and trusted tags when they can make their own topics and charge outrageous prices.

Read the rules please.


I'm not only talking about ubers here though. Why can't people post topics offering Grushes or Crushes? Screenshots provide plenty of proof for the service being done (or not done)

This post was edited by celestial1 on Jul 12 2009 05:23am

How am I wrong that they require a Trusted tag? I never said you have to have a Trusted tag for all services, in my first post I specifically stated you can still post in In Search Of threads without a Trusted tag.

How am I favoring anyone? I've never accepted any type of service from anyone on this site, if the user's feel that the Trusted tagged user's are over-charging for their services they aren't required to use them, are they? The user can still post a thread
"In need of crush" then anyone can respond to their thread.
If you're responding to one person being in need of a rush/leveling then it is a lot easier to prove that then if you're hosting your own thread with 7x user's.

Sorry I generalized "You" as the people in favor of the current status of the site.

I do not believe your last statement is true. Oftentimes it's hard to get "leechers" or "heads" because they are not allowed to post topics of this manner. Also the difference is going through one thread and having to watch the threads like a hawk looking for people that are iso. It makes a DRASTIC difference.

Also the trusted tagged people are allowed to post their own topic, thus drawing more attention and inevitably demolishing the competition with such an advantage. They are only able to charge these prices because, I believe, they are able to post topics, and people have a hard time finding ubers.

I never said I'm in favor of the current service system I just don't bother with majority of the games now that its composed of all cheaters making profits mainly. You're allowed to do searches in the Trading grounds for free, if people like a user's gubers enough then wouldn't they eventually be known and just get Pm'd by people asking whenever they're offering services? It was allowed before and the user's themselves ended up giving the mod team the decision to change the service policy so in all they can only complain to themselves, yes?

When I used to offer services I'd get PM's from people about when I'll do them again, thus it made me not required to make threads?

Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:50:20 PM Received 15.00 (206.00 -> 221.00) from APub (28.55 -> 13.55)
Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:50:00 PM Received 15.00 (191.00 -> 206.00) from GameSpy (385.00 -> 370.00)
Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:36:37 PM Received 15.00 (176.00 -> 191.00) from xxpsycoxx (468.86 -> 453.86)
Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:33:39 PM Received 15.00 (161.00 -> 176.00) from a7x666 (25.00 -> 10.00) guber
Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:25:11 PM Received 5.00 (156.00 -> 161.00) from Cristal (258.00 -> 253.00) tyvm!
Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:03:26 PM Received 15.00 (165.00 -> 180.00) from Doorman (6,865.67 -> 6,850.67) Guber
Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:03:09 PM Received 15.00 (150.00 -> 165.00) from ArsonsAccount (1,564.65 -> 1,549.65) gubers
Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:55:18 PM Received 15.00 (135.00 -> 150.00) from xChiodos (653.00 -> 638.00) guber
Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:10:36 PM Received 10.00 (125.00 -> 135.00) from Nikolaos (3,200.00 -> 3,190.00)
Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:00:20 PM Received 15.00 (110.00 -> 125.00) from nXr (202.00 -> 187.00) guber
Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:58:20 PM Received 17.00 (93.00 -> 110.00) from Andys (17.33 -> 0.32)
Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:55:35 PM Received 15.00 (93.00 -> 108.00) from smoketree4life (1,475.00 -> 1,460.00) guber x2
Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:33:31 PM Received 15.00 (78.00 -> 93.00) from smoketree4life (1,495.00 -> 1,480.00)
Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:24:37 PM Received 10.00 (68.00 -> 78.00) from CarnivalKlowns (23.00 -> 13.00)
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:15:49 PM Received 15.00 (53.00 -> 68.00) from gangstar_jr (780.00 -> 765.00) here
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:10:56 PM Received 15.00 (38.00 -> 53.00) from Nain (167.00 -> 152.00) guber
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:10:36 PM Received 15.00 (23.00 -> 38.00) from cmmille8 (26.00 -> 11.00) 15fg for a guber hope its 1-85 on YAHTZEE
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:10:14 PM Received 15.00 (8.00 -> 23.00) from Gawdlyz (15.00 -> 0.00)

I don't doubt your ability to offer a service, complete it, and have happy customers. You may be satisfied with the way the current system is set up, but many people aren't. If you are not in favor of the current system, then why are you arguing with me? For shits and giggles?



I'm not sure where you get your sources but I think this is irrelevant. The majority of people hosting a service are not cheaters.

I'm saying that allowing people to post topics for ubers would make it MUCH more convenient for the person selling the ubers.

This post was edited by celestial1 on Jul 12 2009 05:57am