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#1
Mar 20 2009 05:57am
There has been a TON of uber scamming lately, and I think something needs to be done to help prevent it.

The rules state that you can post requesting a service, and a non trusted tagged member may respond and offer those services. But you may not create a thread offering services with out a trusted tag.

The person responding to those threads where someone is in need of ubers knows going in that he can scam and nothing will happen if he does. If the rules could be redone in such a way that states if the person offering the service responds to a thread where the service was requested then they should be held responsible for not completing the task. If someone makes an "Iso: Level Job" thread and the person who responded scams for the fg and doesn't do the job, they are held responsible, so why not do the same thing with ubers? You would have to post the same information in S/A with a link to the thread like everyone else does. If you respond to a thread where services are being offered without a trusted tag then you do so at your own risk. I think this would cut down a lot on people getting scammed if the uber scammers knew they would be facing having their gold locked. Also, I think it would make JSP a safer place to trade for services. Because lets face it, there are more of non rated traders than there are trusted tags, and ubers are highly traded.
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Mar 20 2009 06:01am
S/a do not support UT Runs

This post was edited by Konqk on Mar 20 2009 06:01am
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Mar 20 2009 06:01am
no in many cases you can't say who is responsible
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#4
Mar 20 2009 06:03am
Quote (Konqk @ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 08:01am)
S/a do not support UT Runs


Yes I know this, that's why I'm suggesting some of the rules be changed so S/A would support it.

Quote (HCTrades @ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 08:01am)
no in many cases you can't say who is responsible


If the rules were changed, then yes you would know who is responsible.
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#5
Mar 23 2009 10:13am
[x] Yes, as long as the person running the uber posted in a thread of someone looking for the service

its the first Uber suggestion which makes sense and got my Yes.

I hope it will get approved.
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Mar 23 2009 10:20am
Quote (lanfear690 @ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 11:57am)
There has been a TON of uber scamming lately, and I think something needs to be done to help prevent it.

The rules state that you can post requesting a service, and a non trusted tagged member may respond and offer those services. But you may not create a thread offering services with out a trusted tag.

The person responding to those threads where someone is in need of ubers knows going in that he can scam and nothing will happen if he does. If the rules could be redone in such a way that states if the person offering the service responds to a thread where the service was requested then they should be held responsible for not completing the task. If someone makes an "Iso: Level Job" thread and the person who responded scams for the fg and doesn't do the job, they are held responsible, so why not do the same thing with ubers? You would have to post the same information in S/A with a link to the thread like everyone else does. If you respond to a thread where services are being offered without a trusted tag then you do so at your own risk. I think this would cut down a lot on people getting scammed if the uber scammers knew they would be facing having their gold locked. Also, I think it would make JSP a safer place to trade for services. Because lets face it, there are more of non rated traders than there are trusted tags, and ubers are highly traded.


yes well thats ur own fault do it at ur risk or something they say
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#7
Mar 23 2009 10:23am
The other option is to not allow ubers in any manner without a trusted tag. That is how it was before.

There is no way to mediate those kinds of things other than for the mediator to host the service themself, so the options are either the way it is now or the way it was before.
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#8
Mar 23 2009 05:15pm
this site used to ban ALL ubers with customers on account even WITH trusted tag, after too many ut scams had happened and messed up s/a with victims cries and rages.
it seems history repeats itself... time to disallow ubers once again? dry.gif

EDIT:
this is the old sticky when ubers were not allowed at all.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=5151945&f=100

This post was edited by metalworks on Mar 23 2009 05:20pm
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Mar 23 2009 05:16pm
Quote (metalworks @ Mon, Mar 23 2009, 07:15pm)
this site used to ban ALL ubers with customers on account even WITH trusted tag, after too many ut scams had happened and messed up s/a with victims cries and rages.
it seems history repeats itself... time to disallow ubers once again? <_<


I agree. They aren't reliable, hard to mediate and hard to police.
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#10
Mar 23 2009 05:38pm
Quote (lanfear690 @ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 11:57am)
There has been a TON of uber scamming lately, and I think something needs to be done to help prevent it. 

The rules state that you can post requesting a service, and a non trusted tagged member may respond and offer those services.  But you may not create a thread offering services with out a trusted tag.

The person responding to those threads where someone is in need of ubers knows going in that he can scam and nothing will happen if he does.  If the rules could be redone in such a way that states if the person offering the service responds to a thread where the service was requested then they should be held responsible for not completing the task.  If someone makes an "Iso: Level Job" thread and the person who responded scams for the fg and doesn't do the job, they are held responsible, so why not do the same thing with ubers?  You would have to post the same information in S/A with a link to the thread like everyone else does.  If you respond to a thread where services are being offered without a trusted tag then you do so at your own risk.  I think this would cut down a lot on people getting scammed if the uber scammers knew they would be facing having their gold locked.  Also, I think it would make JSP a safer place to trade for services.  Because lets face it, there are more of non rated traders than there are trusted tags, and ubers are highly traded.


ive had 1 person fuck my guber up 3 times lol it was fuckin that one guys name i cant think of right now lol
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