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Mar 17 2009 10:15am
Hi, hope everyone is doing great.

I noticed, when a jsp user decides to scam, he scams plenty of honnest users.
Before he got locked/scammer'd tag, it takes a time, which the scammer uses to scam other users.

What I suggest (tell me if it's totally useless of bullshit please :D) :

When an user is accused in S/A with some proofs (some s/s which may you think that he scammed) add something behind his "non rated" tag.
I mean :

Trader: Not Rated (SAT)
SAT would stand for "Scammer Accusation Trial"
Yes, crap name, but couldn't think about an other biggrin.gif

That would help to warn people, instead of spamming thread in the forums.

If it appears the user didn't scam, just remove the (SAT)

That would save some scams imho.

I'm sorry for my english, I hope you got my point.

Now it's your turn ! Express yourselves !
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Mar 17 2009 11:02am
[x] Nop

Honest traders with a SAT,
those that havnt done anything wrong would be frustrated as hell cuz no option anybody will trade with them.
Scammer Accusations is one of the lazyest parts of jsp (after Pricecheck) and a Trial can take ages...
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Mar 17 2009 11:04am
i think is nice like an optional idea...

to protect the community of scamming smile.gif
but these tags arecrap

[X] Yes
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Mar 17 2009 11:04am
the change of tags was discussed 100 times, i dont think it will change
and it would be really hard to newcomers to get some succesful trades like that.
but an idea from me would be that newcomers HAVE to trade with a mediator to avoid getting scammed and to avoid multi accounts that scam other people. but this maybe would chill newcomers because of the slower trading system

This post was edited by Sheeya on Mar 17 2009 11:06am
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Mar 17 2009 11:12am
Quote (gwyneed @ Tue, Mar 17 2009, 05:02pm)
[x] Nop

Honest traders with a SAT,
those that havnt done anything wrong would be frustrated as hell cuz no option anybody will trade with them.
Scammer Accusations is one of the lazyest parts of jsp (after Pricecheck) and a Trial can take ages...


Yea but I meant, you add the tag when you have some proofs.
IG s/s and goldlogs. Those are just some proofs.
In s/a they lock when they have like plenty of proofs.
So imho there won't be honnest users with the tag.

Or it would be really rare. But I understand your point of view smile.gif

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Quote (Sheeya @ Tue, Mar 17 2009, 05:04pm)
the change of tags was discussed 100 times, i dont think it will change
and it would be really hard to newcomers to get some succesful trades like that.
but an idea from me would be that newcomers HAVE to trade with a mediator to avoid getting scammed and to avoid multi accounts that scam other people. but this maybe would chill newcomers because of the slower trading system


yea that's the problem happy.gif it's safe, but some ppl are not ready to take that time :/

This post was edited by Gobosei on Mar 17 2009 11:13am
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Mar 17 2009 11:13am
Members are innocent until proven guilty. Please use a mediator when trading to avoid scams.
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Mar 17 2009 11:14am
No

The users gold will get locked as soon as enough proofs are posted.

With this system ppl would abuse it and just make false accusations against useres they disslike etc.
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Mar 17 2009 11:16am
Quote (snusgrus @ Tue, Mar 17 2009, 12:14pm)
No

The users gold will get locked as soon as enough proofs are posted.

With this system ppl would abuse it and just make false accusations against useres they disslike etc.


I think it's a good idea.

It takes almost a month to lock some one, enough proof for you is 20 people getting scammed and posting. I go a lot through S/A and one person has enough proof and you still ask for more and wait for more people to get
scammed by that same person...
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Mar 17 2009 11:26am
Quote (hedonism @ Tue, Mar 17 2009, 05:13pm)
Members are innocent until proven guilty.  Please use a mediator when trading to avoid scams.


Yea I totally agree.
But adding this tag doesnt say he's guilty
It's just sayin to take car and the --> Use a mediator.

innocent until proven guilty
Is one of my favourite sentence, honnestly, because it's true.
But it's true IRL. What I mean, IRL --> the actions of the guy/girl would be carefully watched.
But on this site, there are too many people you'd have to watch happy.gif so I think the sentence doesnt apply in here.
BUT OFC --> I didnt mean that everyone is guilty. Just that this sentence makes (imho) no sense in here.
No offense ofc ♥^_^

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Quote (snusgrus @ Tue, Mar 17 2009, 05:14pm)
No

The users gold will get locked as soon as enough proofs are posted.

With this system ppl would abuse it and just make false accusations against useres they disslike etc.


yes ofc i thought about it.
But to get this tag i suggest, you need some basic proofs :

With these you can't tag an 100% innocent user.

See what I mean ? smile.gif

This post was edited by Gobosei on Mar 17 2009 11:28am
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Mar 17 2009 11:53am
Quote (IsraeliSoldier @ Tue, 17 Mar 2009, 18:16)
I think it's a good idea.

It takes almost a month to lock some one, enough proof for you is 20 people getting scammed and posting. I go a lot through S/A and one person has enough proof and you still ask for more and wait for more people to get
scammed by that same person...


That's not true, I've both witnessed and helped friends locking scammers, on first offense!

Voted no btw, this would give a bad rep to innocent guys.

This post was edited by hestJaevel on Mar 17 2009 11:54am
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