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Look, im sorry to post another thread on this subject, but there were just some questions that i had still that i couldn't answer because it was closed down so... quickly. anyway, plz give me good reasons why my ideas are bad, and if they are, i will totally back down, because i just want whats best for the community, and i think that this can be a good idea. thank you for reading this post. Anyway, here are all some quotes that people said in my last post that I didnt really understand, and i would be very grateful if they could simply be answered. Thank you for your time.

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Quote (tcl @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 12:50pm)
and the next suggestion about "service tags"....
this will never happen. there is no need for "service tags" - trusted, mediator, not rated and scammer are really enough.

how would you decide if you give them to a member? on trust? then it's just a trusted tag. and anything else does not make any sense.


first off, do you really think that there is no need for a service tag? People are frequently needing a grush in this game whether it be just starting over or making a new char, and i am pretty sure that i still haven't seen any Trusted tag members doing any grushing services and its been over 2 weeks. I understand that they just simply dont have time... People need more grushes. simple as that.

secondly, Whether or not someone recieved a service tag would be based on their grushing through their trial ( being 10 or more days, but more on that later) and their speed, communication, and just overall being a good person to play with. Realistically, a grush doesnt require that much trust other then payment, and thats the easiest part... so ya, it wouldnt be based off of their trust, it would be based off of how good of a grusher they really are.

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Quote (~Devil~ @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 12:52pm)
Cause the tags are not given out senseless.

Having a tag means being recognized as Trusted by the community and we cannot risk to have some users scammed.


I realize why you are worried about your members being scammed, and frankly, I am too, that is why I think it is up to the Jsp staff to decide on whether or not someone is eligable for a 30 day trial. I still dont have a full idea of how the staff would decide if an individual is eligible for a trial, but thats why im leaving it up to the staff to decide so that they won't send out a bunch of scammers to take everyones fg. One thing i have thought of though, is if a rule was inforced for the payment of all grushes or something. if half the money is payed up front to the grusher with the tag, and then half is done at the end? therefore trust will be needed for both the grusher and the grushee. the 2/3 rule was made for basic trading, why not this one for grushing?

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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 12:58pm)
If you want to offer services, find an iso thread and post there. You are still allowed to offer services without a trusted tag if you follow the correct channels. The only restriction is that you CANNOT make a thread posting your service for trade. Or post your service in your profile, or user blogs or anywhere else on this board.

If you can't find a thread that is iso a service, use the trade search option available in the trade forum. There's a filter for services only.

Many users follow the rule and still offer services for people following the regulations of this board. It's time the rest of the community does the same.


This one I am kinda confused about. What is the difference on whether or not you can make your own posts, rather then just post on others? your still doing the same service in the exact same way in the end. A grush. So why does it matter how you advertise your services?

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Quote (~Devil~ @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 12:52pm)
Cause the tags are not given out senseless.

Having a tag means being recognized as Trusted by the community and we cannot risk to have some users scammed.


Who said they would be given out senslessly? i said that in my original post, that jsp staff would decide if someone could recieve a trial. sorry if i didnt make that clearer, but ya, it would be jsp's decision.

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Quote (_dmx_ @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 01:03pm)
This is what trusted / mediator tags are for. Sorry this won't happen.


Yes, i do realize that this is what they are for, but to be honest... you rarely see med's and Trusted tag members having time to do grushing for the Jsp forum. they are busy running it and making sure everyone is abiding by the rules and such. how do they have the time to do grushing?




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Jan 22 2009 04:36pm
There will never be anything like this, it has been suggested and answered many times.

Just respond to ISOs, there are plenty of them.
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Dude tags means nothing.

Work enough and your name will have a certain reputation for whatever service its your doing, and then the customers will come to you.
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Quote (Illum @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 03:39pm)
Dude tags means nothing.

Work enough and your name will have a certain reputation for whatever service its your doing, and then the customers will come to you.


ya but how can you work when all your threads get closed down? ya i know that you can post on other threads, but even still, that way, you can only grush like... 1 person per day. ish anyway... and who wants to go through all that time posting on other peoples threads anyway? why not just have the people who need the service done, come to the person that will work for them?

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Quote (GomerY2j @ Fri, 23 Jan 2009, 00:42)
ya but how can you work when all your threads get closed down? ya i know that you can post on other threads, but even still, that way, you can only grush like... 1 person per day. ish anyway... and who wants to go through all that time posting on other peoples threads anyway? why not just have the people who need the service done, come to the person that will work for them?


If people didn't scam, lie and all that other crap, it would be allowed for everyone, but it doesn't work.
Just because there aren't enough people doing the rushes isn't a good enough reason to give tags more easily, and in order for your suggestion to be effective, they should be given more easily than the current "trusted" status.

The same reason why there aren't trader ratings, or ubers are your own risk etc etc.
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Quote (HardyTarget @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 03:47pm)
If people didn't scam, lie and all that other crap, it would be allowed for everyone, but it doesn't work.
Just because there aren't enough people doing the rushes isn't a good enough reason to give tags more easily, and in order for your suggestion to be effective, they should be given more easily than the current "trusted" status.

The same reason why there aren't trader ratings, or ubers are your own risk etc etc.


If something is needed, the jsp community should try and make it available if they can. Its simple supply and demand. whether it be finding more people that deserve trusted tags to making a whole new tag that gives less priveledges and is a lower quality then a trusted tag. I think that the problem for grushing can, and should be fixed. thats all i can say. I am pretty sure that we can all agree that there is definately a problem in the grushing system for jsp.

This post was edited by GomerY2j on Jan 22 2009 04:56pm
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sry but this will not happen

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