Quote (DoC-Knightwolf7 @ Tue, 20 May 2008, 18:18)

I'm going to vote no on this as well. While I do not like users early bumping I myself have had instances where I needed to post ahead of the bump rule and directly after myself.
Example: I had agreed to a trade (so I was the last poster) and while I was in the game I got a realm down while waiting on a mediator (the mediation button was used) so I had a friend go in the game and pick up the items for me.
It was needed for myself and my friend to both post in the trade thread for records that he was in-fact the person getting the items.
There was no other way around me doing it. I had to post that he was taking the items for me, in the thread, and he had to confirm. Thus, I violated the early bump rule, but it was at the mediators request.

Quote (hue_two @ Tue, 20 May 2008, 18:24)

I thought of this too and I expect a lot of other people have too but the problem is if people are going to violate the early bump rule and they are unable to do so on their post they will simply repost it. This will lead to mass reposting which is much more difficult to manually keep track of.
i.e you are solving one problem but making another worse as a consequence.

Quote (xpyropunk93x @ Tue, 20 May 2008, 18:53)

i just voted yes but after i did i realized a few errors.
next bump in 4 hours.
for example, lets say you are selling a ptorch for 25 fg
someone offers.
you can't reply, because next bump is in 4 hours.
recount my yes as a no ^^

Quote (brmv @ Tue, May 20 2008, 06:51pm)

when i posted this suggestion i considered that as well, mass reposting can be detected more easily than early bumps - you see the threads without going into them plus if several will do that, they will hinder each other and hopefully those blatant violations will attract more attention
yes, for a (hopefully) short period a negative impact might be realised but that might be compensated by a mods monitoring the forum and easily recognising multple threads

Quote (hue_two @ Tue, 20 May 2008, 19:02)

Early reposting is not easy to detect since 2 identical post in the space of 1 hour will have ~1k posts between posts between and so would be not noticed (atleast on euscl trading forum) and even in the space of 10 min the number of posts between a post and its re-post is huge and would go un-noticed. Reporting these violations is annoying and difficult since you must browse through 100s of posts looking for the previuous identical and post when u spot a repost you must then manually pm a moderator.

Automated early bump control shouldnt be done unless the early respost problem is solved and this isn't an easy problem to solve in my opinion.

Quote (brmv @ Tue, May 20 2008, 07:14pm)

if someone reposts after one hour is in my opinion not as disruptive to trading as the same person having early bumped 30 times in that period
and i have seen many threads being bumped like that - you can never hinder people reposting the same items with a different header, but with the 2 in top 50 (easily visible) and doing something about early bumps the situation should improve

Quote (hue_two @ Tue, 20 May 2008, 19:26)

I personally havn't seen some1 bumping 30 times in an hour or any where near that figure, if some1 early bumps 2 or 3 times they a usually reasonably quickly reported.

Yes, 2 similar posts are easy to spot if they are in the top 50 but these posts (posts 1 to post 50) are separated by ~1min so a 5 min repost wouldnt be easy to spot at all. With an automated early bump rule in place this time separation would be even smaller (since more reposting) and early repostings would be even harder to spot.

Quote (brmv @ Tue, May 20 2008, 10:24pm)

if you are not on at those times when people early bump dozen of times without the topic being closed, you are quite lucky
yes because a mod is just slow to close it even though they have been reported
in most of the major trading forums i have seen plenty topics which are being early bumped every time they drop from the first page if not earlier
yes i agree
and if they were closed the majority got reposted shortly afterwards
yes i agree
with more reposting, plenty would fall under the top 50 rule and would be spotted easily
disagree