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Dec 15 2010 10:14am
It would work if there was 100% proof but Paul will not do it. Its a business decision...by not giving it back it removes fg from the market which in turn makes people buy more of it from him.
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Dec 15 2010 10:18am
Quote (Raven22O1 @ Dec 15 2010 11:14am)
It would work if there was 100% proof but Paul will not do it. Its a business decision...by not giving it back it removes fg from the market which in turn makes people buy more of it from him.


You realizes that this has nothing to do what so ever with the reasons why this idea wouldnt work right?

The site already gives back forum gold that has been scammed IF the scammer repays his scams. There is a whole process set up for this and mods that work in a forum to help users repay there scams.
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Dec 15 2010 10:44am
Quote (ImCam @ Dec 15 2010 11:06am)
The first line says it all.

This has been suggested many times and it is never applied because it wouldnt work.

I understand your upset about being scammed i have been scammed in the past myself and it sucks but that is no reason to change a system that works for a system that could possibly open up more problems then it would solve.

Also you said that if someone is locked they should auto repay the fg they scammed. What if the thing they scammed was a D2 item for example. How would the site be able to make someone give back a D2 item?

I understand your idea but it just wouldnt work. Use a Mediator and you will never have to worry about being scammed.


People don't have 3+ hours to wait for a mediator?
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Dec 15 2010 11:01am
Quote (ImCam @ Dec 15 2010 04:18pm)
You realizes that this has nothing to do what so ever with the reasons why this idea wouldnt work right?

The site already gives back forum gold that has been scammed IF the scammer repays his scams. There is a whole process set up for this and mods that work in a forum to help users repay there scams.


yeah but if they just scam just to piss people off and take fg then they will never repay. so it really wouldn't be hard to track fg through scams if the person is locked it shouldn't matter and they should send back the fg that was sent to him automatically.
you can sit there and say people would falsely accuse people but that happens everyday still and the person doesn't get locked. so in order for the fg to be returned it has to be ruled that he did in fact scam meaning the mods know he scammed you and for how much and that amount should be re payed. its not freaking difficult you guys are just stubborn and don't like to see change.
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Dec 15 2010 12:36pm
Quote (ImCam @ Dec 15 2010 12:18pm)
You realizes that this has nothing to do what so ever with the reasons why this idea wouldnt work right?

The site already gives back forum gold that has been scammed IF the scammer repays his scams. There is a whole process set up for this and mods that work in a forum to help users repay there scams.


The site itself does not give back forum gold that has been scammed.
The locked user must either get a friend to repay his scams, trade items vs fg with a mediator, or simply buy fg for the purpose of using it to repay scams.

Since locked fg cannot be used to repays scams, it is essentially removed from the system.
In the first two repay methods, no extra fg is added to the system, and while it is in the third, Paul is compensated with monetary gains.



The argument that implementing this suggestion would create too many false accusations doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Seeing as a locked tag severely limits your "JSP experience," a potential motivation for false accusations already exists - A false accusation can cripple a user who you strongly dislike.

Furthermore, Qry noted that scammers frequently decide to repay victims.
If this is truly the case, then the current system encourages false accusations to a degree comparable to this suggestion; however, no one seems to fear a mass flood of false accusations under the current system.

Quote (Qry @ Dec 15 2010 11:53am)

Plus it happens quite often that a scammer decides to repay his victims.


This post was edited by MidnightRider on Dec 15 2010 12:43pm
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Dec 15 2010 12:38pm
Quote (MidnightRider @ Dec 15 2010 02:36pm)
The site itself does not give back forum gold that has been scammed.
The locked user must either get a friend to repay his scams, trade items vs fg with a mediator, or simply buy fg for the purpose of using it to repay scams.

Since locked fg cannot be used to repays scams, it is essentially removed from the system. 
In the first two repay methods, no extra fg is added to the system, and while it is in the third, Paul is compensated with monetary gains.


I knew I wasnt the only one who understood how it works
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Dec 15 2010 12:40pm
This post is a violation of the site rules and appropriate action was taken.

Voted no because you are a real dick.
Glad you got scammed, glad this is being voted no.
inb4 you get mad.
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Dec 15 2010 01:02pm
Way to many reports would be made there is alot of work the already have to do they can't do everything
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Dec 15 2010 01:27pm
I'm not going to read all the posts but this site offers you mediators which you can use.
It's up to you trade with or without them.
You chose not to use one and got scammed, blame yourself.
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Dec 15 2010 01:32pm
1. Use a mediator.

2. What if the person who scammed you no longer has the FG?? Some people get repaid others don't? To many complications.

Edit:

yes 15.38% (2 Votes)
no 84.62% (11 Votes)
Total Votes: 13


This post was edited by Miniflight on Dec 15 2010 01:32pm
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